@leapetra I want to apologize now for not getting last weeks transcript up. I had issues on my home network #mythbeasts
@leapetra 30 mins until we celebrate Cinco de Mayo by talking about Hispanic mythology. #mythbeasts 5:31 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris Just a few minutes until a cinco de mayo themed #mythbeasts chat 5:59 PM May 3rd, 2011
@SteopaR RT @Pyris: Just a few minutes until a cinco de mayo themed #mythbeasts chat 6:12 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Do you know what a Xana is? Find out in about 10 minutes #mythbeasts 6:13 PM May 3rd, 2011
@TamelaBuhrke RT @leapetra: 30 mins until we celebrate Cinco de Mayo by talking about Hispanic mythology. #mythbeasts 6:18 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra 5 mins until #mythbeasts 6:18 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris RT @leapetra: 5 mins until #mythbeasts 6:26 PM May 3rd, 2011
@BookLover73 RT @leapetra: 5 mins until #mythbeasts 6:27 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Almost time. #mythbeasts 6:27 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Chupacabras, La Llorona, and Dip? What do these have in common? #mythbeasts 6:29 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Legendary creatures from the Hispanic cultures. #mythbeasts 6:31 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Chupacabras are the most recent. #mythbeasts 6:34 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra I have never heard of Dip. Who or what is this? #mythbeasts 6:37 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc a black dog that sucks blood. #mythbeasts 6:38 PM May 3rd, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra Saw some footage of the supposed Chupacabras. It just looked like a mean looking dog. #mythbeasts 6:39 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 the stories are nastier than the pictures. #mythbeasts 6:39 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris I thought Chupacabras were more reptilian/bug-like #mythbeasts 6:41 PM May 3rd, 2011
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@leapetra @vampiretemoc The interesting part about the Dip is that it has a lame leg, but that doesn't seem to stop it. #mythbeasts 6:42 PM May 3rd, 2011
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@leapetra @Pyris They are supposed to have spikes along their backs as well. #mythbeasts 6:44 PM May 3rd, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra But, the Chubacabras only has attacked animals. Don't recall anything about humans. #mythbeasts 6:44 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 Only livestock. #mythbeasts 6:45 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra a similar creature from Chile is the Peuchen only this one is a flying snake and can paralyze you with its gaze. #mythbeasts 6:46 PM May 3rd, 2011
@cdreimer @leapetra I thought the flying snake was Aztec or Mayan? #mythbeasts #flunkmythologyincollege 6:47 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris Which would be why it's also called 'the goat sucker' #mythbeasts 6:48 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Some folklorist think the Peuchen might have sparked the Chubacabra myth #mythbeasts 6:48 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @cdreimer Not too far off. both in the "new world" #mythbeasts 6:49 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra RT @vampiretemoc: @leapetra Oh, I see. Sounds like my kind of dog. And I agree. The name is lame. #mythbeasts 6:50 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @MargaretAnnLake like on that can fly. #mythbeasts 6:51 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra interesting all creatures talked about tonight, suck. um #mythbeasts 6:52 PM May 3rd, 2011
@MargaretAnnLake Like a basilisk? @leapetra a similar creature from Chile is the Peuchen, a flying snake & can paralyze you with its gaze. #mythbeasts 6:52 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra RT @gdl16: There was a fascinating article released awhile back noting the connection between chupacabras & the film "Species." #mythbeasts 6:52 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra Speaking of "sucking" creatures, my creator is a Cihuacoatl. #mythbeasts 6:53 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris hrmm I dun think I've ever heard of chupies flying. Leaping strongly and for great distances but not actually flying. #mythbeasts 6:54 PM May 3rd, 2011
@bluesytee RT @leapetra: a similar creature from Chile is the Peuchen only this one is a flying snake and can paralyze you with its gaze. #mythbeasts 6:54 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @gdl16 I read that article. Makes sense, and amazing how it could spread so fast. #mythbeasts 6:55 PM May 3rd, 2011
@bluesytee RT @MargaretAnnLake: Like a basilisk? @leapetra a similar creature from Chile is the Peuchen, a flying snake & can paralyze you with its gaze. #mythbeasts 6:55 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc like La llorna? #mythbeasts 6:55 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra Sorry, that's wrong. She's Cihuateteo. She died in childbirth and now accompanies the setting sun to steal children. #mythbeasts 6:57 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc The singular form is Cihuateotl. #mythbeasts 6:57 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra La Llorona sorry. #mythbeasts 6:58 PM May 3rd, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra Oooh, 'The crier' What does she do? -P 6:58 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc quick looky of wikipedia. Interesting goddess #mythbeasts 6:59 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra was considered the same as a fallen warrior. Llorona was just, if you'll indulge me, pathetic. #mythbeasts 6:59 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra La Llorona drowned her children so she could be with a man. A Cihuateotl died in childbirth. Aztec women who died... #mythbeasts 7:00 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra They both try to take children. #mythbeasts 7:00 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc I see what you mean, one was honorable, one was tragic #mythbeasts 7:01 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra An Aztec woman who died in childbirth was considered the same as a fallen warrior. Got it right that time. #mythbeasts 7:02 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra ARGH! These 140 characters are killing me by making no sense. #mythbeasts 7:02 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra True. La Llorona tries 2 make amends, though. A Cihuateotl likes seducing men, 2 steal children, cause chaos. #mythbeasts 7:02 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra Exactly, Corazon! You are better at tweeting than me. #creditwherecreditisdue #mythbeasts 7:04 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra La Llorona is a warning too, to any woman that feels the need to kill their kids (we all know that tragedy still happens) #mythbeasts 7:05 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc practice, lots of practice. :D #mythbeasts 7:05 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra Agreed. And a warning to children who disobey. Reminds me of true versions of fairy tales. Not that Disney nonsense. #mythbeasts 7:06 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc There are may similar myths. #mythbeasts 7:06 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra I asked earlier about the Xana, Not Xena. She is another similar being, but was more beneficial . #mythbeasts 7:07 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @karenbridget777 20 mins left of #mythbeasts 7:09 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra As I'm Aztec, we had legends of this dog: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahuizotl_(creature). #mythbeasts 7:10 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra Lived in water and used the hand on its tail to grab prey and drown them. Cooler than Dip. #mythbeasts 7:10 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc Strange water habit #mythbeasts 7:11 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris Yeesh on the Ahuizotl #mythbeasts 7:13 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @Pyris Indeed. Scared many of my Aztec friends. #mythbeasts 7:15 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc The Aztecs have many great #mythbeasts to choose from. Really enjoying this week's chat. 7:17 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra I have and am still learning a lot this week. I was unfamiliar with many legends. #mythbeasts 7:18 PM May 3rd, 2011
@KarenBridget777 @leapetra Thanks! I almost forgot! :) #mythbeasts 7:19 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris The Ahuizot seems related to the Celtic kelpie #mythbeasts 7:21 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra Not #mythbeasts, but an interesting tidbit. The cucuy is the Mexican version of the boogeyman. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuco 7:21 PM May 3rd, 2011
@KarenBridget777 #mythbeasts Enjoying learning. I don't really have anything to add to this one. I think I read about La Llorona once though... 7:22 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc This year I am putting my pumpkin on a stake. thanks to that article #mythbeasts 7:24 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @Pyris Really? Now that's cool. It's interesting how so many #mythbeasts intersect. 7:24 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra You know what they say: The more you know. #mythbeasts 7:24 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @KarenBridget777 La Llorona is pretty popular in Mexican folklore. Not surprised you've read about her. #mythbeasts 7:26 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @KarenBridget777 I have to admit ignorance, but i have enjoyed learning about the myths. Scratched the surface #mythbeasts 7:27 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris @vampiretemoc Well the Cuca head as a pumpkin thing also intersects as the Romans pressed a load of Iberians in to legions... #mythbeasts 7:27 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Just found Alicante: a snake that drinks mother's milk and impregnates women < that one creeps me out. #mythbeasts 7:28 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris Makes an interesting twist on the Jack o Lantern #mythbeasts 7:28 PM
May 3rd, 2011
@KarenBridget777 @leapetra ANYTHING involving snakes creeps me out! :( #mythbeasts 7:29 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris And those legions then invaded the British isles, where the carving of turnips is cited as the origin of jack o'lanterns #mythbeasts 7:30 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @Pyris Interesting. I'll have to Google search this. #mythbeasts 7:31 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @KarenBridget777 Quetzalcoatl, the feathered serpent god, was an Aztec god that didn't want human sacrifice. No need 2 fear him. #mythbeasts 7:31 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra yurgh, reptilian incubus =s #mythbeasts 7:32 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris @vampiretemoc Always happy to share! #mythbeasts 7:32 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @Pyris Reptilian Incubus. Sounds like a great title for a short story. #mythbeasts 7:33 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @Pyris Now it's the more I know. Thank you for sharing something new with an old vamp. #mythbeasts 7:33 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Jackalopes, Hoop snakes, and my favorite the Hodag! #mythbeasts 7:33 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Next week We will be headin' into the woods and wilds of the US for Fearsome Critters. #mythbeasts 7:34 PM May 3rd, 2011
@AshOldfield @leapetra Ha I convinced a girl on a camping trip that hoop snakes were real! #mythbeasts 7:34 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra LOL on the jackalopes, evil little varmits #mythbeasts 7:35 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra I like me the jackalope. I'll only admit this once: They are cute. #mythbeasts 7:36 PM May 3rd, 2011
@KarenBridget777 @leapetra Every time I think of Jackalope, I think of character @DaveCoulier used to do... #mythbeasts :) 7:36 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra Well if you have ever been to Rhinelander, WI you can see Hodags. :D #mythbeasts 7:37 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @AshOldfield @leapetra Have not heard of hoop snakes, which means I'll be here again next week. #mythbeasts 7:37 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc we will see you next week for the "snipe hunt" he he #mythbeasts 7:37 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra Are you inviting me in? *winks* #mythbeasts 7:38 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra For next week reading material if you want http://ow.ly/4MAdw #mythbeasts 7:39 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra Homework?! Who knew at almost 500 I'd have my first homework assignment. #mythbeasts 7:40 PM May 3rd, 2011
@leapetra @vampiretemoc You know I don't mind vampires hanging around. #mythbeasts 7:41 PM May 3rd, 2011
@vampiretemoc @leapetra I'll tuck that invite away for a rainy day. *Smiles* And with that, I'm off. See you next week for another #mythbeasts chat. 7:41 PM May 3rd, 2011
@Pyris Night folks, it was a great chat so take care until next week! #mythbeasts 7:43 PM May 3rd, 2011
Saturday, May 7, 2011
Transcript 04/26/2011
@leapetra Everyone get your spelunking gear on, we are going to visit the mythic beast of the Earth today #mythbeasts 6:29 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Trolls: From monstrous giants to almost human like creatures. That can turn to stone. #mythbeasts 6:31 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Dwarfs: miners and craftsmen from the underground #mythbeasts 6:32 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 I guess we can't start a chat like this without mentioning the movies Lord of The Rings & Legend. Both have bolstered the myths. #mythbeasts 6:33 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 Both helped. LOTR had the closest representation of mythic dwarfs in any modern telling. #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Kobolds: could live in mines, make noises, and replace good veins of metal with poisonous ones #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@almostinhuman RT @leapetra: Trolls: From monstrous giants to almost human like creatures. That can turn to stone. #mythbeasts http://bit.ly/fdvLfX 6:35 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 Legend: Tim Curry as the devil. That is all you have to say. #mythbeasts 6:35 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra There seems to be two types of underground in myths. one is real, with mines and the like. The other another realm #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 Didn't know Trolls could turn to stone. I just thought they hung around bridges. #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 most of the monstrous ones, if exposed to sun for too long will become stone. #mythbeasts 6:38 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @emhanns #mythbeasts chat is going on. Talking about trolls, dwarfs and the like 6:39 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra What about gnomes? some of them lived underground. #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 Hmm, wasn't aware of that. Do Goblins fit this discussion or are they a different kind of creature? #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Goblins are considered different. I think there are some that are from the earth #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts there are those who come from the earth like gnomes and trolls and those who make the earth their home like dark elves 6:52 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla I forgot about the dark elves #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Were these creatures more prevalent in mining areas, or every where? #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@WeegZilla in irish mythology the fae lands lay underground under hills #mythbeasts 7:00 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris Things from the earth/ caves eh? What about snake/ lizard people like Naga? #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris I have to admit ignorance with the naga #mythbeasts 7:02 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla A little slow but it is working #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@WeegZilla @leapetra the #mythbeasts timeline is not updating my end.. how about yours? 7:03 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris Ah but the Sidhe are for the most part in another dimension rather than subterranean. explains different seasons and time shifts #mythbeasts 7:04 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 A lot of what I know of these creatures has to do with the popularity of role playing games. The dark elves especially. #mythbeasts 7:04 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 I was afraid we would have to talk about D & D kobolds. #mythbeasts 7:05 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra It has influenced how my generation has interpreted certain myths. #mythbeasts 7:07 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 at least most of the monsters are based on good source material #mythbeasts 7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris Ooooh my bad, the naga are disputed between being Cave dwellers and as an aquatic species. Sorry folks #mythbeasts 7:09 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra It's what got me interested in learning more about these stories in the first place. #mythbeasts 7:10 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris I will say that D&D is usually based on awesome research but their take on kobolds is OTT. #mythbeasts 7:11 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra if we were to include RPG monsters. Gelatinous Cubes were one of best underground things #mythbeasts 7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris d&d kobolds are a good example of overkill sometimes. #mythbeasts 7:16 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra YES! I love my cubes. Rust monsters were always handy too #mythbeasts also #IamanevilGM 7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra In an upcoming chat we will talk about modern creations that seem like they come from myths, like rust monsters #mythbeasts 7:19 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra I think the storms are playing havoc with ppl tonight. that's what I will blame slow chat on. LOL #mythbeasts 7:23 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra I'm wrapping up. We will be talking about Hispanic mythic monsters next week. In time for Cinco de Mayo #mythbeasts 7:30 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@TonyNoland RT @leapetra: if we were to include RPG monsters. Gelatinous Cubes were one of best underground things #mythbeasts / agree. 7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra Aye, I may know a thing or two about that topic. ;) #mythbeasts 7:32 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris Does this mean La Lorana will be discussed? #mythbeasts 7:36 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris yup along with others #mythbeasts 7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris also had a serious bout of catbutt interference, so I lost the plot for a few #mythbeasts 7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Trolls: From monstrous giants to almost human like creatures. That can turn to stone. #mythbeasts 6:31 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Dwarfs: miners and craftsmen from the underground #mythbeasts 6:32 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 I guess we can't start a chat like this without mentioning the movies Lord of The Rings & Legend. Both have bolstered the myths. #mythbeasts 6:33 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 Both helped. LOTR had the closest representation of mythic dwarfs in any modern telling. #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Kobolds: could live in mines, make noises, and replace good veins of metal with poisonous ones #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@almostinhuman RT @leapetra: Trolls: From monstrous giants to almost human like creatures. That can turn to stone. #mythbeasts http://bit.ly/fdvLfX 6:35 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 Legend: Tim Curry as the devil. That is all you have to say. #mythbeasts 6:35 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra There seems to be two types of underground in myths. one is real, with mines and the like. The other another realm #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 Didn't know Trolls could turn to stone. I just thought they hung around bridges. #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 most of the monstrous ones, if exposed to sun for too long will become stone. #mythbeasts 6:38 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @emhanns #mythbeasts chat is going on. Talking about trolls, dwarfs and the like 6:39 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra What about gnomes? some of them lived underground. #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 Hmm, wasn't aware of that. Do Goblins fit this discussion or are they a different kind of creature? #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Goblins are considered different. I think there are some that are from the earth #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts there are those who come from the earth like gnomes and trolls and those who make the earth their home like dark elves 6:52 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla I forgot about the dark elves #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra Were these creatures more prevalent in mining areas, or every where? #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@WeegZilla in irish mythology the fae lands lay underground under hills #mythbeasts 7:00 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris Things from the earth/ caves eh? What about snake/ lizard people like Naga? #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris I have to admit ignorance with the naga #mythbeasts 7:02 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla A little slow but it is working #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@WeegZilla @leapetra the #mythbeasts timeline is not updating my end.. how about yours? 7:03 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris Ah but the Sidhe are for the most part in another dimension rather than subterranean. explains different seasons and time shifts #mythbeasts 7:04 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 A lot of what I know of these creatures has to do with the popularity of role playing games. The dark elves especially. #mythbeasts 7:04 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 I was afraid we would have to talk about D & D kobolds. #mythbeasts 7:05 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra It has influenced how my generation has interpreted certain myths. #mythbeasts 7:07 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 at least most of the monsters are based on good source material #mythbeasts 7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris Ooooh my bad, the naga are disputed between being Cave dwellers and as an aquatic species. Sorry folks #mythbeasts 7:09 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra It's what got me interested in learning more about these stories in the first place. #mythbeasts 7:10 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris I will say that D&D is usually based on awesome research but their take on kobolds is OTT. #mythbeasts 7:11 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra if we were to include RPG monsters. Gelatinous Cubes were one of best underground things #mythbeasts 7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris d&d kobolds are a good example of overkill sometimes. #mythbeasts 7:16 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra YES! I love my cubes. Rust monsters were always handy too #mythbeasts also #IamanevilGM 7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra In an upcoming chat we will talk about modern creations that seem like they come from myths, like rust monsters #mythbeasts 7:19 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra I think the storms are playing havoc with ppl tonight. that's what I will blame slow chat on. LOL #mythbeasts 7:23 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra I'm wrapping up. We will be talking about Hispanic mythic monsters next week. In time for Cinco de Mayo #mythbeasts 7:30 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@TonyNoland RT @leapetra: if we were to include RPG monsters. Gelatinous Cubes were one of best underground things #mythbeasts / agree. 7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra Aye, I may know a thing or two about that topic. ;) #mythbeasts 7:32 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris Does this mean La Lorana will be discussed? #mythbeasts 7:36 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris yup along with others #mythbeasts 7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2011
@Pyris also had a serious bout of catbutt interference, so I lost the plot for a few #mythbeasts 7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2011
Sunday, April 24, 2011
transcript 04/19/2011
@leapetra in one hour. Phoenix and other firebirds. #mythbeasts 5:28 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra A little research for my troll story before #mythbeasts 5:37 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra 30 mins until we talk about the Phoenix #mythbeasts 6:02 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra 9 mins until chat. if I can stop smashing eggs. Not the Firebird's I wouldn't do that #mythbeasts 6:21 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles RT @leapetra: 30 mins until we talk about the Phoenix #mythbeasts> i.e. 4:30 MST 6:21 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra How long does #mythbeasts run? 6:27 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles 1 hour Unless it really takes off, then we can go a little over #mythbeasts 6:28 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Cool. I'm totally multitasking and #editing while we chat. Cause I'm like that. ;) #mythbeasts 6:29 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Me too. #mythbeasts 6:30 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra This time of year resurrection is a topic. The Phoenix is one of the best examples #mythbeasts 6:31 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra See how writers are! The nerve. #mythbeasts 6:31 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra When does a bird stop being just a bird and become something else??? #mythbeasts 6:33 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Along with the phoenix you also have the Firebird, but there are so many mythic birds #mythbeasts 6:33 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles The Egyptians had the Ibis, which they mummified by the millions and equated with a symbol of rebirth. All tombs had them. #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Birds and rebirth, what would be the connection #mythbeasts 6:35 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra The only thing I can think of is, the egg. Something about the egg. #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles Well the Ibis and Phoenix were also keepers of knowledge, if I remember correctly. Even through death. #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer The pelican, feeding its young from it's heart's blood, was a common medieval and renaissance (alchemical) symbol for Christ #mythbeasts 6:38 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles Look at eggs and fertility, esp in the Spring. Symbols of rebirth abound. #mythbeasts 6:38 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @leapetra The product of a misspent young. And adolescence. And adulthood. #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles i raised rabbits, I wouldn't want THEIR eggs. LOL #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Demon_Writer I didn't know that about the pelican #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles Even bunnies have eggs, hahah. Hmm, chocolate eggs. But I digress. #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer In Jewish tradition there is the sand bird, rather than the phoenix. More or less the same deal as I understand it. #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Why never landing? #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer Aw, we appreciate your PhD efforts. At least the results. ;) Pelican is new to me too. #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra While researching this chat. I came across other birds. Like the Huma bird that never landed. poor thing #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer It's interesting that most cultures have some version of a Phoenix. Many trace back to the Ibis. #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles no legs, but it brought luck. The bird of good fortune. #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles Djehuti is my man. Er, Ibis-headed god. Whatever. #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@mruriah @leapetra wasn't very fortunate for the bird #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer And I'm sure something forgotten before the Ibis too. Perhaps Mayan? Many feathered things there. #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer The albatross is an old symbol of misfortune in sailing lore (and shows up in some David Eddings novels). #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Other birds of note. The Roc and the Thunderbird #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles There is Quetzalcoatl, but that was a god, but also somewhat Christ-like. #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles Totally different time periods, though. The Egyptians were a much older culture than anything in the New World. #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@dwood29d RT @Demon_Writer: The albatross is an old symbol of misfortune in sailing lore (and shows up in some David Eddings novels). #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@dwood29d RT @Demon_Writer: In Jewish tradition there is the sand bird, rather than the phoenix. More or less the same deal as I understand it. #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@dwood29d RT @Demon_Writer: The pelican, feeding its young from it's heart's blood, was a common medieval and renaissance (alchemical) symbol for Christ #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @mruriah Totally different time periods, though. The Egyptians were a much older culture than anything in the New World. #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Most of the rebirth birds dove into fire, some drowned to kill themselves. #mythbeasts 6:47 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer There is some argument of trade between Egypt and South America in the Archeological record. Not for here... ;) #mythbeasts 6:48 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles I have heard that too. #mythbeasts 6:49 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra You okay? #mythbeasts 6:51 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra sorry a bit distracted, we had a loud noise outside, sounded like a gun shot. So bare with me #mythbeasts 6:51 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Yeah, mummies were wrapped partly in plants only found in South America. How does that happen without trade? #mythbeasts 6:51 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles @leapetra But by that reasoning no tradition could start by itself. Correlation does not equate to causality :) #mythbeasts 6:52 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles We're fine, we are wondering if it really was, and if the cops are coming #mythbeasts 6:52 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @leapetra That was the mating call of a dodo bird. It's also why they are extinct. Who wants to mate with that noise? #mythbeasts 6:53 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Avalerion is similar to the phoenix. except it lays two eggs then drowns itself. Also has no beak #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer @leapetra Oh the Egyptians we already doing their thing, just picked up small culture/plant elements from trade. #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra What else does Avalerion do? What powers? #mythbeasts 6:55 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Demon_Writer I think the hastag will be too long :D #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer @leapetra At least that's the theory. For now. Until new things are found, like next month. :P #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt Didn't neolithic Indians of the new world form the traditional basis for legendary beings such as the thunder bird? #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles @leapetra Not my point, but also not the time or place :) Is there a #cultualanthropologychat? #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt (waves) There were many Native American birds like that, Rainbow Crow too #mythbeasts 6:57 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles No powers except to survive for 60 years with out a beak #mythbeasts 6:57 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra But some people still claim to see the Thunderbird. Not the car.... #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra @giggilles I always feel like I forgot to do my homework @ #mythbeasts time! :( 7:00 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@mruriah @HollyIMerriday glad I'm not the only one. Although I had no idea the Phoenix, thunderbird, and firebird were separate. #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt Remember to sight those sources children. #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @HollyIMerriday @Demon_Writer is giving us an education tonight! #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt You are lucky I am married to you! Back to the chat... #mythbeasts 7:02 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @mruriah The Firebird is from Russia. The bird was made of fire. I don't think the phoenix was #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt A. B. F. Always be footnoting. #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@mruriah @leapetra I was always taught they were the same, just represented differently in different cultures. +1 for public school #mythbeasts 7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra @demon_writer Yeah! Just catching up! Fascinating! :) #mythbeasts 7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @mruriah I think that's because they are similar concepts. Bird + rebirth. Public school simplifies. #mythbeasts 7:05 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra The stories of the firebird deal with it eating a tsars apples. He sends his sons to kill it. And they only get a feather. #mythbeasts 7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra The feather could illuminate a room. #mythbeasts 7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@last_lines Just seen this chat. Mmmh might stay awhile. #mythbeasts 7:12 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @last_lines its slowing down right now, we have phoenix in hand, or two in the bush? #mythbeasts 7:13 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt What are all the properties of phoenix bi-products? #mythbeasts 7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra What about modern phoenixes like Dumbledore's pet? #mythbeasts 7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@last_lines I am usually at EDJ at this time of day but am fevered in bed with flu. Is this chat a regular chat? @leapetra #mythbeasts 7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @leapetra With the exception of the auto-immolation rather than making a fire, Fawkes seems more or less normal. For a phoenix. #mythbeasts 7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @last_lines yes it is #mythbeasts 7:16 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt Feathers, tears, blood that sort of thing. #mythbeasts 7:16 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt some confuse The firebird's feathers with the phoenix's. I think the healing tears are new #mythbeasts 7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra I remember healing tears from a Phoenix story I read as a teen. Can't be that new. #mythbeasts 7:18 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer I believe there is a firebird story in @neilhimself 's Fragile Things. #mythbeasts 7:18 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @leapetra Forgot about the tears. Haven't read the books in a while. #mythbeasts 7:19 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Demon_Writer Harry Potter was the last one I read that in #mythbeasts 7:20 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@last_lines @leapetra Too bad it happens to be in a time when I am usually not at the computer. Is there a transcript for these chats? #mythbeasts 7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @Miniatt As did Vauldamort's. #mythbeasts 7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @last_lines I have been putting them up at http://mythbeastschat.blogspot.com/ #mythbeasts 7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt Harry's wand had a feater from fawks in it. #mythbeasts 7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@last_lines @leapetra Oh fantastic. Will check it out then. Thanks for the heads up. #mythbeasts 7:24 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra I have read a theory about the phoenix. That explorers saw the flamingo in the desert and thought it was on fire, Plausible? #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra It's possible. The color is very unique and unlike other birds. But flamingos aren't still revered. Point against? #mythbeasts 7:27 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@mruriah @giggilles neither are mermaids/manatees. Point taken away? #mythbeasts 7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles the Egyptians were the last to revere them. #mythbeasts 7:29 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@jflamingo2 RT @leapetra: I have read a theory about the phoenix. That explorers saw the flamingo in the desert and thought it was on fire, Plausible? #mythbeasts 7:30 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Ahh I didn't know the Egyptians did. By 'still' I meant were they found then worshiped for a time. Sounds like yes. #mythbeasts 7:32 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Time is up. Next week is one of my favs. TROLLS and dwarfs, and other human like creatures of the Earth. #mythbeasts 7:32 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra I will see you all next week. I try to have the transcript up on Sunday. #mythbeasts 7:35 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @mruriah I don't think mermaids were ever worshiped like the Ibis or Flamingos by the Egyptians, but no I didn't mean recently. #mythbeasts 7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Thanks for hosting! #mythbeasts 7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra A little research for my troll story before #mythbeasts 5:37 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra 30 mins until we talk about the Phoenix #mythbeasts 6:02 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra 9 mins until chat. if I can stop smashing eggs. Not the Firebird's I wouldn't do that #mythbeasts 6:21 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles RT @leapetra: 30 mins until we talk about the Phoenix #mythbeasts> i.e. 4:30 MST 6:21 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra How long does #mythbeasts run? 6:27 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles 1 hour Unless it really takes off, then we can go a little over #mythbeasts 6:28 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Cool. I'm totally multitasking and #editing while we chat. Cause I'm like that. ;) #mythbeasts 6:29 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Me too. #mythbeasts 6:30 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra This time of year resurrection is a topic. The Phoenix is one of the best examples #mythbeasts 6:31 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra See how writers are! The nerve. #mythbeasts 6:31 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra When does a bird stop being just a bird and become something else??? #mythbeasts 6:33 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Along with the phoenix you also have the Firebird, but there are so many mythic birds #mythbeasts 6:33 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles The Egyptians had the Ibis, which they mummified by the millions and equated with a symbol of rebirth. All tombs had them. #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Birds and rebirth, what would be the connection #mythbeasts 6:35 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra The only thing I can think of is, the egg. Something about the egg. #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles Well the Ibis and Phoenix were also keepers of knowledge, if I remember correctly. Even through death. #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer The pelican, feeding its young from it's heart's blood, was a common medieval and renaissance (alchemical) symbol for Christ #mythbeasts 6:38 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles Look at eggs and fertility, esp in the Spring. Symbols of rebirth abound. #mythbeasts 6:38 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @leapetra The product of a misspent young. And adolescence. And adulthood. #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles i raised rabbits, I wouldn't want THEIR eggs. LOL #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Demon_Writer I didn't know that about the pelican #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles Even bunnies have eggs, hahah. Hmm, chocolate eggs. But I digress. #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer In Jewish tradition there is the sand bird, rather than the phoenix. More or less the same deal as I understand it. #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Why never landing? #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer Aw, we appreciate your PhD efforts. At least the results. ;) Pelican is new to me too. #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra While researching this chat. I came across other birds. Like the Huma bird that never landed. poor thing #mythbeasts 6:41 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer It's interesting that most cultures have some version of a Phoenix. Many trace back to the Ibis. #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles no legs, but it brought luck. The bird of good fortune. #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles Djehuti is my man. Er, Ibis-headed god. Whatever. #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@mruriah @leapetra wasn't very fortunate for the bird #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer And I'm sure something forgotten before the Ibis too. Perhaps Mayan? Many feathered things there. #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer The albatross is an old symbol of misfortune in sailing lore (and shows up in some David Eddings novels). #mythbeasts 6:43 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Other birds of note. The Roc and the Thunderbird #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles There is Quetzalcoatl, but that was a god, but also somewhat Christ-like. #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles Totally different time periods, though. The Egyptians were a much older culture than anything in the New World. #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@dwood29d RT @Demon_Writer: The albatross is an old symbol of misfortune in sailing lore (and shows up in some David Eddings novels). #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@dwood29d RT @Demon_Writer: In Jewish tradition there is the sand bird, rather than the phoenix. More or less the same deal as I understand it. #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@dwood29d RT @Demon_Writer: The pelican, feeding its young from it's heart's blood, was a common medieval and renaissance (alchemical) symbol for Christ #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @mruriah Totally different time periods, though. The Egyptians were a much older culture than anything in the New World. #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Most of the rebirth birds dove into fire, some drowned to kill themselves. #mythbeasts 6:47 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer There is some argument of trade between Egypt and South America in the Archeological record. Not for here... ;) #mythbeasts 6:48 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles I have heard that too. #mythbeasts 6:49 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra You okay? #mythbeasts 6:51 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra sorry a bit distracted, we had a loud noise outside, sounded like a gun shot. So bare with me #mythbeasts 6:51 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Yeah, mummies were wrapped partly in plants only found in South America. How does that happen without trade? #mythbeasts 6:51 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles @leapetra But by that reasoning no tradition could start by itself. Correlation does not equate to causality :) #mythbeasts 6:52 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles We're fine, we are wondering if it really was, and if the cops are coming #mythbeasts 6:52 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @leapetra That was the mating call of a dodo bird. It's also why they are extinct. Who wants to mate with that noise? #mythbeasts 6:53 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Avalerion is similar to the phoenix. except it lays two eggs then drowns itself. Also has no beak #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer @leapetra Oh the Egyptians we already doing their thing, just picked up small culture/plant elements from trade. #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra What else does Avalerion do? What powers? #mythbeasts 6:55 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Demon_Writer I think the hastag will be too long :D #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @Demon_Writer @leapetra At least that's the theory. For now. Until new things are found, like next month. :P #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt Didn't neolithic Indians of the new world form the traditional basis for legendary beings such as the thunder bird? #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @giggilles @leapetra Not my point, but also not the time or place :) Is there a #cultualanthropologychat? #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt (waves) There were many Native American birds like that, Rainbow Crow too #mythbeasts 6:57 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles No powers except to survive for 60 years with out a beak #mythbeasts 6:57 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra But some people still claim to see the Thunderbird. Not the car.... #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra @giggilles I always feel like I forgot to do my homework @ #mythbeasts time! :( 7:00 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@mruriah @HollyIMerriday glad I'm not the only one. Although I had no idea the Phoenix, thunderbird, and firebird were separate. #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt Remember to sight those sources children. #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @HollyIMerriday @Demon_Writer is giving us an education tonight! #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt You are lucky I am married to you! Back to the chat... #mythbeasts 7:02 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @mruriah The Firebird is from Russia. The bird was made of fire. I don't think the phoenix was #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt A. B. F. Always be footnoting. #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@mruriah @leapetra I was always taught they were the same, just represented differently in different cultures. +1 for public school #mythbeasts 7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra @demon_writer Yeah! Just catching up! Fascinating! :) #mythbeasts 7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @mruriah I think that's because they are similar concepts. Bird + rebirth. Public school simplifies. #mythbeasts 7:05 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra The stories of the firebird deal with it eating a tsars apples. He sends his sons to kill it. And they only get a feather. #mythbeasts 7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra The feather could illuminate a room. #mythbeasts 7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@last_lines Just seen this chat. Mmmh might stay awhile. #mythbeasts 7:12 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @last_lines its slowing down right now, we have phoenix in hand, or two in the bush? #mythbeasts 7:13 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt What are all the properties of phoenix bi-products? #mythbeasts 7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra What about modern phoenixes like Dumbledore's pet? #mythbeasts 7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@last_lines I am usually at EDJ at this time of day but am fevered in bed with flu. Is this chat a regular chat? @leapetra #mythbeasts 7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @leapetra With the exception of the auto-immolation rather than making a fire, Fawkes seems more or less normal. For a phoenix. #mythbeasts 7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @last_lines yes it is #mythbeasts 7:16 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt Feathers, tears, blood that sort of thing. #mythbeasts 7:16 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt some confuse The firebird's feathers with the phoenix's. I think the healing tears are new #mythbeasts 7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra I remember healing tears from a Phoenix story I read as a teen. Can't be that new. #mythbeasts 7:18 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer I believe there is a firebird story in @neilhimself 's Fragile Things. #mythbeasts 7:18 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @leapetra Forgot about the tears. Haven't read the books in a while. #mythbeasts 7:19 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @Demon_Writer Harry Potter was the last one I read that in #mythbeasts 7:20 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@last_lines @leapetra Too bad it happens to be in a time when I am usually not at the computer. Is there a transcript for these chats? #mythbeasts 7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Demon_Writer @Miniatt As did Vauldamort's. #mythbeasts 7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @last_lines I have been putting them up at http://mythbeastschat.blogspot.com/ #mythbeasts 7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@Miniatt Harry's wand had a feater from fawks in it. #mythbeasts 7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@last_lines @leapetra Oh fantastic. Will check it out then. Thanks for the heads up. #mythbeasts 7:24 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra I have read a theory about the phoenix. That explorers saw the flamingo in the desert and thought it was on fire, Plausible? #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra It's possible. The color is very unique and unlike other birds. But flamingos aren't still revered. Point against? #mythbeasts 7:27 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@mruriah @giggilles neither are mermaids/manatees. Point taken away? #mythbeasts 7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles the Egyptians were the last to revere them. #mythbeasts 7:29 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@jflamingo2 RT @leapetra: I have read a theory about the phoenix. That explorers saw the flamingo in the desert and thought it was on fire, Plausible? #mythbeasts 7:30 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Ahh I didn't know the Egyptians did. By 'still' I meant were they found then worshiped for a time. Sounds like yes. #mythbeasts 7:32 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra Time is up. Next week is one of my favs. TROLLS and dwarfs, and other human like creatures of the Earth. #mythbeasts 7:32 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@leapetra I will see you all next week. I try to have the transcript up on Sunday. #mythbeasts 7:35 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @mruriah I don't think mermaids were ever worshiped like the Ibis or Flamingos by the Egyptians, but no I didn't mean recently. #mythbeasts 7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Thanks for hosting! #mythbeasts 7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2011
Sunday, April 17, 2011
transcript 04/12/2011
After a couple weeks of twitter fails, and low to no attendance. #mythbeasts came back with a vengeance. Shapeshifters in all their glory
@leapetra 30 mins until the shapeshifters come out! #mythbeasts 6:01 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra getting ready for chat. Other than werewolves, what are some of your favorite shapeshifters? I have mine! #mythbeasts 6:10 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra in 10 mins What did Loki and Odin do when they were women? #mythbeasts 6:19 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Alright Simpsons are over ready to talk about shapeshifters? #mythbeasts 6:28 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Anyone joining me for chat tonight, I am ready #mythbeasts 6:30 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts what you chatting about tonight? 6:33 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra I'll chat with ya! I need some myth & magic to take my mind of stressful day @ work! #mythbeasts :) 6:33 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla shapeshifters. All shapes and sizes #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles Love me some shapeshifters! #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra werewolves come to mind, but anyone have any other favorites? #mythbeasts 6:35 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Another one to add to my list #mythbeasts 6:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles My first intro to shapeshifters was reading Sheri Tepper's Mavin Manyshaped years ago in the 80's. Heard of her series? #mythbeasts 6:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts I like the "Finfolk". Mermaids. Selkies. What would you call someone who morphs into a dolphin? 6:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @HollyIMerriday Dolphin, eh? I think you have freedom to do what you want there. Don't think it's established. #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @HollyIMerriday That's and interesting question. Just dolphins or whales as well? #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra One I recently found was the Leshy. He can change into many animals and mushrooms #mythbeasts 6:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts doubelgangers 6:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @k_h_koehler Join us at #mythbeasts flesh eating mermaids sound interesting 6:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Leshy? What mythos is that? #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla Those are freaky #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@TruthTeller10 RT @argylestyle: RT @leapetra: werewolves come to mind, but anyone have any other favorites? #mythbeasts / compassionate conservatives 6:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles This was the first one of the Mavin/Tepper series. She can take all forms. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89590 #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts Have a dolphin shifter in my WIP so looking for suggestions... I was really excited when @leapetra announced this as topic! 6:40 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Slavic / Polish they loved to trick people in the woods and kidnap women. #mythbeasts 6:40 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris hey! Ravenkin? #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @HollyIMerriday I wonder if the pacific islanders would have something like that #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Gotta love beasts that lure you into the woods. It's so primaeval. #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Hi everyone! What about Ravenkin? #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra Ooh, good thought on the Pacific Islanders. I have good mermaids though. #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts I created me own shapechangers HellSpawn created from the blood of the great Dragon Hell when it fell to earth.. 6:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Re: Ravenkin: I've only encountered them in an RP setting (Ravenloft) but I thought the concept was very good #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles I have a special place in my heart for woodland tricksters #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra As well as a VERY heroic and yummy merman! :) #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla Shapeshifter dragon? or something else? #mythbeasts 6:46 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris @weegzilla that sounds pretty intense #mythbeasts 6:47 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris @weegzilla that sounds pretty intense #mythbeasts 6:47 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts I'm more Paranormal Romance so I need my characters a little kinder & gentler. 6:47 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles One of my beast ;) peeves is when authors don't deal with the mechanics of the shapechanging itself. When it's glossed over. #mythbeasts 6:48 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @giggilles Mechanics? #mythbeasts 6:49 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Pratchett did a good job of handling it with Angula. You never see her change because she is modest. #mythbeasts 6:49 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles I want to feel the internal struggle between beast and human. I want to feel the fight between the two elements. #mythbeasts 6:50 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Oh I need to read that now. Thanks. #mythbeasts 6:51 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @giggilles Ah! What about HOW/WHY they changed initially? #mythbeasts 6:52 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles any of the Discworld that deal with the City Watch from Men at Arms on. She is my favorite werewolf #mythbeasts 6:52 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts Some Shifters are born that way, w/ mine, it's result of what villain has done to them. 6:54 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @HollyIMerriday Yes, what ties ties them to each world. Real shifters have reasons for why they have alter egos. i.e. Trickery #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @HollyIMerriday @giggilles do you think some don't have that issue, like the ones born with the ability, or would all of them? #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Well a Leshy would do it to feed, yes? Holly's do it because the villain changed them. #mythbeasts 6:55 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles I think Leshy do it to mess with people that mess with the woods. #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts Hell was 1 of the 7 great dragons . it went rouge but was defeated by 2 lesser dragons when they team up. 6:56 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra @HollyIMerriday I have ones who were changed by a being to be its speaker. #mythbeasts 6:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Most of the shifters I write about are born that way. Some have issues with it and some don't, it depends on their temperament #mythbeasts 6:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra What about humans and gods that choose to change. Like Loki and Odin, changing to women #mythbeasts 6:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts My merman (Mentor to MC) balances two identities as a means of protecting others. He's a school teacher by day... 6:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @Pyris being a shifter sets you aside. you're not a part of the standard world or culture. #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @jennspiller They both became women and other females. Both had children that way too. #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jennspiller @leapetra Loki and Odin changed to women? I don't know those stories. Interesting. #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla @leapetra or Zeus turning into a golden shower.. kinky bugger #mythbeasts 7:00 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra are the gods truly shifters, or just impersonators ? #mythbeasts 7:00 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jennspiller @leapetra Cool. I need to look this up. #mythbeasts 7:00 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts And bad a-- demon slayer by night! ;) 7:00 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla I think Zeus beats Odin and Loki for the amounts of different things he changed into #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Ohh yes @leapetra! And Zeus, the great philanderer #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla Oh yes, vampires change change many shapes. Not too much in movies lately. #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles that's a good question. What would make them true shapeshifters? #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla psychic vampires can change shape since they are asteral projections they can learn to change shape at will #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @giggilles @leapetra What did you mean by "changed by a being to be its speaker"? Interesting notion! #mythbeasts :) 7:05 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra I'm not sure. Gods have so many more powers, versus shifters who only have 1 - 2 forms or varied forms. #mythbeasts 7:05 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Perhaps it's better to say that shapeshifting is a skill gods have? #mythbeasts 7:06 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Aren't there also quite a few references to Celtic bards changing shape too, especially after spending time in the underworld? #mythbeasts 7:06 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla the morrigan are shapeshifters they can appear as any of the trinity. young girl. woman. or old hag. #mythbeasts 7:07 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @HollyIMerriday @leapetra It's my story, a shifter race can transform others into shifters like itself, and uses them. #mythbeasts 7:08 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @giggilles @leapetra Oh, cool! :) #mythbeasts 7:09 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @WeegZilla The Morrigan is also a deity/goddess. #mythbeasts 7:09 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Scramasax77 @leapetra regular species (not hybrids), but super endowed? E.g. Nighteyes the wolf (Hobb) or Shadowfax the horse (Tolkien)? #mythbeasts 7:09 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @Scramasax77 Not much done with that, but interesting to have animals that become more human #mythbeasts 7:10 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @Pyris I hadn't heard that, but that's very nifty. #mythbeasts 7:10 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Shapesfhiting as a punishment? Do you think those stories are warnings or tragedies? #mythbeasts 7:12 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts. there are those who can change shape at will and there are those who's shape was changed through curse or spell 7:13 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @Scramasax77 And then I remember the Lancre witches turning Greebo the tomcat into a man. Very handsome, rouge man #mythbeasts 7:13 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris @giggilles I was specifically thinking of Taliesin but the Celtic hero Cu Chulainn does it too. #mythbeasts 7:14 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra Both, which we touched on when discussing Medusa #mythbeasts 7:15 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts My villain thinks they are doing the planet a favor by getting rid of humans. 7:16 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla One of my favorite movies. #mythbeasts 7:17 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra The only shapeshifter I have wrote about is a family of werewolves and a leshy. The vampires have lost how to change #mythbeasts 7:17 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla Ladyhawk is a good example of a shapeshifting curse #mythbeasts 7:17 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts But there is another character, a good character who fixes it so the victims have human form until sundown. 7:18 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris mmmm, Ladyhawk #mythbeasts 7:20 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles werewolves, moon cycles, and pms all related. #mythbeasts 7:21 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles #VampireDiaries has a curse for the werewolves and vampires, and why it keeps the wolves on a monthly schedule #mythbeasts 7:21 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts Which I kind of "stole" from Ladyhawke & Shrek! :) @Vigil_Merriday is a little different though... 7:21 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles So some modern shows are keeping the curse motif. They don't become wolves until they kill. #vd #mythbeasts 7:22 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Yeah, how is it pms and werewolves are suddenly on par? seriously? #mythbeasts 7:23 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts @Vigil_Merriday can take either form any time of the day or night as he has Fey blood on his mother's side. :) 7:23 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles There is a way to become a werewolf that is related to that, but I don't want to gross ppl out on chat #mythbeasts 7:24 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra oh, ewwww! yeah no. #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jolantru RT @leapetra: Shapesfhiting as a punishment? Do you think those stories are warnings or tragedies? #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla Link? #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla I have a collection of short stories called Origins it's my ideas on the Origins of Mythical creatures #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra I know chat will be over soon, but if anyone wants to keep going that cool. #mythbeasts 7:27 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra Yeah! I'm having fun! :) #mythbeasts 7:28 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra shapeshifters are a vast category. #mythbeasts 7:30 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles I need to bail soon. Have a wee beast to feed, else he'll transform. You don't want to know into what. #mythbeasts 7:31 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla on subject how werewolves come into being. vampires. you become a vampire if you drink their blood a bite from them your a ghoul #mythbeasts 7:31 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@getfanged RT @leapetra: shapeshifters are a vast category. #mythbeasts 7:32 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Anyone want a clue about that "thing" Type O Negative's song Wolfsmoon has a nice poetic description. #mythbeasts 7:33 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris I have to vanish as well as it's late here in the UK #mythbeasts 7:34 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Next week! Phoenix! #mythbeasts 7:35 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Alright, this chat went well, helps when there are no technical difficulties #mythbeasts 7:35 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer In my developing vampire mythos, the vampire king can shapeshift into anything. Regular vampires cannot. #mythbeasts 7:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jimbronyaur Sorry to intrude, but what is #mythbeasts ? 7:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @jimbronyaur new chat on Tuesdays. Talking about any creatures in myth and folklore #mythbeasts 7:37 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jimbronyaur @leapetra Ah, very nice! What time is it held??? (and can I join in on the fun?) #mythbeasts 7:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles good chat all. see you for phoenix action next week! #mythbeasts 7:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @cdreimer I know why I limited my vampires, but not many modern writers want their vampires to shapeshift anymore #mythbeasts 7:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer The vampire queen can shapeshift into a smaller form, say a raven. She hides among humans to bear the next vampire king baby. #mythbeasts 7:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @jimbronyaur 6:30 to 7:30 pm Eastern Time #mythbeasts 7:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris See everyone next week then o/ #mythbeasts 7:43 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer @leapetra I think everyone is trying to get away from the generic vampire to do something different. I'm a traditionalist. #mythbeasts 7:43 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris bye bye #mythbeasts 7:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @cdreimer So am I, its something they have to rediscover. #mythbeasts 7:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jimbronyaur @leapetra Cool! I'll be there next week. #mythbeasts 7:45 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer @leapetra Besides, if Dracula didn't turn into a bat in "Love At First Bite," who would ever scream about a black chicken? LOL #mythbeasts 7:46 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer #mythbeasts RT @WeirdWarEditor: @cdreimer I have yet to read ... how shapeshifting doesn't violate law of the conservation of mass, though! 7:52 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer Quantum mechanics might be the exception for shapeshifting if you want to ruin horror with a scientific facts. #mythbeasts 7:53 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer When the sorcerers shapeshift into wolves or birds in David Eddings's fantasy series, everything is still there but it isn't. #mythbeasts 7:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @cdreimer Interesting to think about, with transhumanism, would shapeshifting be as easy as downloading an app? #mythbeasts 8:01 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra 30 mins until the shapeshifters come out! #mythbeasts 6:01 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra getting ready for chat. Other than werewolves, what are some of your favorite shapeshifters? I have mine! #mythbeasts 6:10 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra in 10 mins What did Loki and Odin do when they were women? #mythbeasts 6:19 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Alright Simpsons are over ready to talk about shapeshifters? #mythbeasts 6:28 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Anyone joining me for chat tonight, I am ready #mythbeasts 6:30 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts what you chatting about tonight? 6:33 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra I'll chat with ya! I need some myth & magic to take my mind of stressful day @ work! #mythbeasts :) 6:33 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla shapeshifters. All shapes and sizes #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles Love me some shapeshifters! #mythbeasts 6:34 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra werewolves come to mind, but anyone have any other favorites? #mythbeasts 6:35 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Another one to add to my list #mythbeasts 6:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles My first intro to shapeshifters was reading Sheri Tepper's Mavin Manyshaped years ago in the 80's. Heard of her series? #mythbeasts 6:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts I like the "Finfolk". Mermaids. Selkies. What would you call someone who morphs into a dolphin? 6:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @HollyIMerriday Dolphin, eh? I think you have freedom to do what you want there. Don't think it's established. #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @HollyIMerriday That's and interesting question. Just dolphins or whales as well? #mythbeasts 6:37 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra One I recently found was the Leshy. He can change into many animals and mushrooms #mythbeasts 6:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts doubelgangers 6:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @k_h_koehler Join us at #mythbeasts flesh eating mermaids sound interesting 6:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Leshy? What mythos is that? #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla Those are freaky #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@TruthTeller10 RT @argylestyle: RT @leapetra: werewolves come to mind, but anyone have any other favorites? #mythbeasts / compassionate conservatives 6:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles This was the first one of the Mavin/Tepper series. She can take all forms. http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/89590 #mythbeasts 6:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts Have a dolphin shifter in my WIP so looking for suggestions... I was really excited when @leapetra announced this as topic! 6:40 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Slavic / Polish they loved to trick people in the woods and kidnap women. #mythbeasts 6:40 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris hey! Ravenkin? #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @HollyIMerriday I wonder if the pacific islanders would have something like that #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Gotta love beasts that lure you into the woods. It's so primaeval. #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Hi everyone! What about Ravenkin? #mythbeasts 6:42 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra Ooh, good thought on the Pacific Islanders. I have good mermaids though. #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts I created me own shapechangers HellSpawn created from the blood of the great Dragon Hell when it fell to earth.. 6:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Re: Ravenkin: I've only encountered them in an RP setting (Ravenloft) but I thought the concept was very good #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles I have a special place in my heart for woodland tricksters #mythbeasts 6:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra As well as a VERY heroic and yummy merman! :) #mythbeasts 6:45 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla Shapeshifter dragon? or something else? #mythbeasts 6:46 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris @weegzilla that sounds pretty intense #mythbeasts 6:47 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris @weegzilla that sounds pretty intense #mythbeasts 6:47 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts I'm more Paranormal Romance so I need my characters a little kinder & gentler. 6:47 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles One of my beast ;) peeves is when authors don't deal with the mechanics of the shapechanging itself. When it's glossed over. #mythbeasts 6:48 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @giggilles Mechanics? #mythbeasts 6:49 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles Pratchett did a good job of handling it with Angula. You never see her change because she is modest. #mythbeasts 6:49 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles I want to feel the internal struggle between beast and human. I want to feel the fight between the two elements. #mythbeasts 6:50 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Oh I need to read that now. Thanks. #mythbeasts 6:51 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @giggilles Ah! What about HOW/WHY they changed initially? #mythbeasts 6:52 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles any of the Discworld that deal with the City Watch from Men at Arms on. She is my favorite werewolf #mythbeasts 6:52 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts Some Shifters are born that way, w/ mine, it's result of what villain has done to them. 6:54 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @HollyIMerriday Yes, what ties ties them to each world. Real shifters have reasons for why they have alter egos. i.e. Trickery #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @HollyIMerriday @giggilles do you think some don't have that issue, like the ones born with the ability, or would all of them? #mythbeasts 6:54 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Well a Leshy would do it to feed, yes? Holly's do it because the villain changed them. #mythbeasts 6:55 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles I think Leshy do it to mess with people that mess with the woods. #mythbeasts 6:56 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts Hell was 1 of the 7 great dragons . it went rouge but was defeated by 2 lesser dragons when they team up. 6:56 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra @HollyIMerriday I have ones who were changed by a being to be its speaker. #mythbeasts 6:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Most of the shifters I write about are born that way. Some have issues with it and some don't, it depends on their temperament #mythbeasts 6:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra What about humans and gods that choose to change. Like Loki and Odin, changing to women #mythbeasts 6:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts My merman (Mentor to MC) balances two identities as a means of protecting others. He's a school teacher by day... 6:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @Pyris being a shifter sets you aside. you're not a part of the standard world or culture. #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @jennspiller They both became women and other females. Both had children that way too. #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jennspiller @leapetra Loki and Odin changed to women? I don't know those stories. Interesting. #mythbeasts 6:59 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla @leapetra or Zeus turning into a golden shower.. kinky bugger #mythbeasts 7:00 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra are the gods truly shifters, or just impersonators ? #mythbeasts 7:00 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jennspiller @leapetra Cool. I need to look this up. #mythbeasts 7:00 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts And bad a-- demon slayer by night! ;) 7:00 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla I think Zeus beats Odin and Loki for the amounts of different things he changed into #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Ohh yes @leapetra! And Zeus, the great philanderer #mythbeasts 7:01 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla Oh yes, vampires change change many shapes. Not too much in movies lately. #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles that's a good question. What would make them true shapeshifters? #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla psychic vampires can change shape since they are asteral projections they can learn to change shape at will #mythbeasts 7:03 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @giggilles @leapetra What did you mean by "changed by a being to be its speaker"? Interesting notion! #mythbeasts :) 7:05 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra I'm not sure. Gods have so many more powers, versus shifters who only have 1 - 2 forms or varied forms. #mythbeasts 7:05 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Perhaps it's better to say that shapeshifting is a skill gods have? #mythbeasts 7:06 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris Aren't there also quite a few references to Celtic bards changing shape too, especially after spending time in the underworld? #mythbeasts 7:06 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla the morrigan are shapeshifters they can appear as any of the trinity. young girl. woman. or old hag. #mythbeasts 7:07 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @HollyIMerriday @leapetra It's my story, a shifter race can transform others into shifters like itself, and uses them. #mythbeasts 7:08 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @giggilles @leapetra Oh, cool! :) #mythbeasts 7:09 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @WeegZilla The Morrigan is also a deity/goddess. #mythbeasts 7:09 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Scramasax77 @leapetra regular species (not hybrids), but super endowed? E.g. Nighteyes the wolf (Hobb) or Shadowfax the horse (Tolkien)? #mythbeasts 7:09 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @Scramasax77 Not much done with that, but interesting to have animals that become more human #mythbeasts 7:10 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @Pyris I hadn't heard that, but that's very nifty. #mythbeasts 7:10 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Shapesfhiting as a punishment? Do you think those stories are warnings or tragedies? #mythbeasts 7:12 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla #mythbeasts. there are those who can change shape at will and there are those who's shape was changed through curse or spell 7:13 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @Scramasax77 And then I remember the Lancre witches turning Greebo the tomcat into a man. Very handsome, rouge man #mythbeasts 7:13 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris @giggilles I was specifically thinking of Taliesin but the Celtic hero Cu Chulainn does it too. #mythbeasts 7:14 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra Both, which we touched on when discussing Medusa #mythbeasts 7:15 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts My villain thinks they are doing the planet a favor by getting rid of humans. 7:16 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla One of my favorite movies. #mythbeasts 7:17 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra The only shapeshifter I have wrote about is a family of werewolves and a leshy. The vampires have lost how to change #mythbeasts 7:17 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla Ladyhawk is a good example of a shapeshifting curse #mythbeasts 7:17 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts But there is another character, a good character who fixes it so the victims have human form until sundown. 7:18 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris mmmm, Ladyhawk #mythbeasts 7:20 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles werewolves, moon cycles, and pms all related. #mythbeasts 7:21 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles #VampireDiaries has a curse for the werewolves and vampires, and why it keeps the wolves on a monthly schedule #mythbeasts 7:21 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts Which I kind of "stole" from Ladyhawke & Shrek! :) @Vigil_Merriday is a little different though... 7:21 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles So some modern shows are keeping the curse motif. They don't become wolves until they kill. #vd #mythbeasts 7:22 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra Yeah, how is it pms and werewolves are suddenly on par? seriously? #mythbeasts 7:23 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday #mythbeasts @Vigil_Merriday can take either form any time of the day or night as he has Fey blood on his mother's side. :) 7:23 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @giggilles There is a way to become a werewolf that is related to that, but I don't want to gross ppl out on chat #mythbeasts 7:24 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles @leapetra oh, ewwww! yeah no. #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jolantru RT @leapetra: Shapesfhiting as a punishment? Do you think those stories are warnings or tragedies? #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @WeegZilla Link? #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla I have a collection of short stories called Origins it's my ideas on the Origins of Mythical creatures #mythbeasts 7:25 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra I know chat will be over soon, but if anyone wants to keep going that cool. #mythbeasts 7:27 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@HollyIMerriday @leapetra Yeah! I'm having fun! :) #mythbeasts 7:28 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra shapeshifters are a vast category. #mythbeasts 7:30 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles I need to bail soon. Have a wee beast to feed, else he'll transform. You don't want to know into what. #mythbeasts 7:31 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@WeegZilla on subject how werewolves come into being. vampires. you become a vampire if you drink their blood a bite from them your a ghoul #mythbeasts 7:31 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@getfanged RT @leapetra: shapeshifters are a vast category. #mythbeasts 7:32 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Anyone want a clue about that "thing" Type O Negative's song Wolfsmoon has a nice poetic description. #mythbeasts 7:33 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris I have to vanish as well as it's late here in the UK #mythbeasts 7:34 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Next week! Phoenix! #mythbeasts 7:35 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra Alright, this chat went well, helps when there are no technical difficulties #mythbeasts 7:35 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer In my developing vampire mythos, the vampire king can shapeshift into anything. Regular vampires cannot. #mythbeasts 7:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jimbronyaur Sorry to intrude, but what is #mythbeasts ? 7:36 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @jimbronyaur new chat on Tuesdays. Talking about any creatures in myth and folklore #mythbeasts 7:37 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jimbronyaur @leapetra Ah, very nice! What time is it held??? (and can I join in on the fun?) #mythbeasts 7:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@giggilles good chat all. see you for phoenix action next week! #mythbeasts 7:38 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @cdreimer I know why I limited my vampires, but not many modern writers want their vampires to shapeshift anymore #mythbeasts 7:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer The vampire queen can shapeshift into a smaller form, say a raven. She hides among humans to bear the next vampire king baby. #mythbeasts 7:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @jimbronyaur 6:30 to 7:30 pm Eastern Time #mythbeasts 7:39 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@Pyris See everyone next week then o/ #mythbeasts 7:43 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer @leapetra I think everyone is trying to get away from the generic vampire to do something different. I'm a traditionalist. #mythbeasts 7:43 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris bye bye #mythbeasts 7:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @cdreimer So am I, its something they have to rediscover. #mythbeasts 7:44 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@jimbronyaur @leapetra Cool! I'll be there next week. #mythbeasts 7:45 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer @leapetra Besides, if Dracula didn't turn into a bat in "Love At First Bite," who would ever scream about a black chicken? LOL #mythbeasts 7:46 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer #mythbeasts RT @WeirdWarEditor: @cdreimer I have yet to read ... how shapeshifting doesn't violate law of the conservation of mass, though! 7:52 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer Quantum mechanics might be the exception for shapeshifting if you want to ruin horror with a scientific facts. #mythbeasts 7:53 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@cdreimer When the sorcerers shapeshift into wolves or birds in David Eddings's fantasy series, everything is still there but it isn't. #mythbeasts 7:58 PM Apr 12th, 2011
@leapetra @cdreimer Interesting to think about, with transhumanism, would shapeshifting be as easy as downloading an app? #mythbeasts 8:01 PM Apr 12th, 2011
Sunday, March 27, 2011
Centaurs and Satyrs
On Tuesday we will be talking about Centaurs and Satyrs. Two beings that are very simular, but have stark differences. They are mainly male (female versions were a later invention), half horse or goat, and usually found in Greece: the Centaurs and the Satyrs.
Most of them were brutish, drunkards, and wild. There were exceptions.
Chiron (Centaur): He was like the other centaurs only in appearance. He was was intelligent, civilized, peaceful, and kind. Known for his knowledge of medicine, he tutored many of the heroes. He is represented by the constellation Sagittarius.
Pholus (Centaur): A friend of Heracles. Heracles drank some wine while visiting Pholus. The neighboring centaurs smelled its fragrant odor and were driven mad. They charged into the cave. Most were killed by Heracles. Pholus died when a poisoned arrow accidentally dropped on his foot.
Silenus (Satyr): Okay he was a drunkard. But while he was drunk he had the gift of profecy and secret knowledge.
Satyrs were also associated with music, having invented some forms of instruments: auloi pipes, cymbals, castanets, and bagpipes. So they liked to party!
But they were not the only male/animal hybrids. Leshy (Slavic): a shapeshifter, that usually has a tail, hooves, and horns. Polkan (Slavic) a Russian centaur, Tikbalang (Philippines) more horse than man.
Knowing the nature of these beasts, we might get a little "filthy", but should be fun. If you want to join in. Use http://tweetchat.com/room/mythbeasts or tweetdeck for ease of use, and find us at #mythbeasts (don't forget the last s) Make sure you follow me too @leapetra
Most of them were brutish, drunkards, and wild. There were exceptions.
Chiron (Centaur): He was like the other centaurs only in appearance. He was was intelligent, civilized, peaceful, and kind. Known for his knowledge of medicine, he tutored many of the heroes. He is represented by the constellation Sagittarius.
Pholus (Centaur): A friend of Heracles. Heracles drank some wine while visiting Pholus. The neighboring centaurs smelled its fragrant odor and were driven mad. They charged into the cave. Most were killed by Heracles. Pholus died when a poisoned arrow accidentally dropped on his foot.
Silenus (Satyr): Okay he was a drunkard. But while he was drunk he had the gift of profecy and secret knowledge.
Satyrs were also associated with music, having invented some forms of instruments: auloi pipes, cymbals, castanets, and bagpipes. So they liked to party!
But they were not the only male/animal hybrids. Leshy (Slavic): a shapeshifter, that usually has a tail, hooves, and horns. Polkan (Slavic) a Russian centaur, Tikbalang (Philippines) more horse than man.
Knowing the nature of these beasts, we might get a little "filthy", but should be fun. If you want to join in. Use http://tweetchat.com/room/mythbeasts or tweetdeck for ease of use, and find us at #mythbeasts (don't forget the last s) Make sure you follow me too @leapetra
transcript 03/22/2011
Subject was Dragons. We had a few weird glitches. But carried on anyway.
@leapetra 5 minutes until chat. Did anyone see any dragons lately? #mythbeasts
@leapetra hic sunt dracones = here be dragons. Come talk about dragons #mythbeasts
@leapetra Tonight dragons: good vs evil #mythbeasts
@kishazworld @leapetra Where are the dragons? I have to see one! #mythbeasts
@leapetra what makes them so fearful and revered? #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 I believe dragons from the west have been far more popular than eastern dragons. It's a shame since they're very interesting. #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 Hello, btw! ;) #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 HI and welcome #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 it might be a cultural thing. Eastern dragons were introduced late to the west. #mythbeasts
@leapetra Two movies come to mind: Dragonheart and Dragon Slayer. Are both true to the dragon myths? #mythbeasts
@Isis_Ireland RT @leapetra: Two movies come to mind: Dragonheart and Dragon Slayer. Are both true to the dragon myths? #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra I think the legend of Saint George play a huge part if why dragons are popularly fearsome through history #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 People seem to respond to the evil fire breathing dragon more than the wise ancient creature. In the east they are revered. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris dragons were the ultimate beast to destroy #mythbeasts
@Pyris Dragon Slayer is true to the western concept of dragons as an evil monster. Dragonheart, not so much. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris I felt as if Dragonheart was trying to bring in the eastern ideas. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris Dragon Slayer also had the pagan ways disappearing. via the missionary #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra only because the dragon was said to be kin to the serpent of Eden and thus a tool of the devil/ satan #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris All reptiles got thrown in with the serpent of eden. #mythbeasts
@Pyris I would have to agree that Dragonheart tried just an *ickle* bit too hard. Reign of Fire however was a kick in the pants =) #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris Pure monsters. You can see how they could topple civilization #mythbeasts
@leapetra Responses might be slow tonight, noticed Twitter and Tweetchat are keeping up, but Twitscoop isn't #mythbeasts
@leapetra anyone else having issues too? #mythbeasts
@Pyris On the other hand you have dragons like those in the film Flight of Dragons which are cross cultural and symbolic #mythbeasts
@Pyris Hootsuite is keeping up just fine #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris i love that movie, we have the book too. The explanation of how they flew makes perfect sense. #mythbeasts
@leapetra When I was looking over the dragon lore, what surprised me, it some people still claim to see them #mythbeasts
@leapetra You would think a giant reptile would have been easy to spot earlier. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 I forget the precise name, but a "leaping" wyrm (dragon) was reported as little as twenty years ago in Greenland (?) #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra I know of at least one pagan magic system that explains them as being trans-dimensional #mythbeasts
@GdL16 @leapetra I know that one "sighting" in Tibet turned out to be a cloud. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 I heard of the Tibet one, but not the one in Greenland. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra It might have been Iceland (I'm not sure the reports were accurate in the first place), but I remember the leaping. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris Sort of how Pratchett explains how they were not found on Discworld anymore. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 From memory, it had two small forelegs, and could get six to eight feet in one bound. Skeletons have been reported. #mythbeasts
@tribal_gothic The Chinese kept a record of Celestial Dragon Paths (Strange lights that moved in the sky) #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic meteors and the like? #mythbeasts
@Olivia_Rabbit RT @tribal_gothic: The Chinese kept a record of Celestial Dragon Paths (Strange lights that moved in the sky) #mythbeasts
@tribal_gothic @leapetra Well, John Keel hinted at "UFO's" but hard to tell after all these years... #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra to a point but Pratchett's dragons relied more on human belief/ manifestation of will #mythbeasts
@ufoWatcherbot RT @tribal_gothic @leapetra Well, John Keel hinted at "UFO's" but hard to tell after all these years... #mythbeasts
@leapetra Can anyone think of any place on this planet where dragons have not been "found"? #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra Australia? #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris I did like how he had the small dragon "rewire" his system, so he could take off like a jet. Very new twist. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra Antarctica. :P #mythbeasts
@tribal_gothic @leapetra American Indians has a few versions of ThunderBird legends the large Red ones were similar to Dragons #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @Pyris They have a real dragon, the Komodo. #mythbeasts
@Pyris I've never heard of dragons represented in Aboriginal art at all #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @Pyris @leapetra Aboriginal beliefs have things which could be interpreted as dragons in their oral tradition. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 @Pyris I found one called the Rainbow Serpent. http://www.polenth.com/myth/oceania/rainbow.html #mythbeasts
@Pyris oh, my bad! Thank you @BigWords88 I have learned summat new today =) #mythbeasts
@leapetra Dragons are tied into world creation and destruction. #mythbeasts
@leapetra Midgard serpent for example. Kills Thor in Ragnarök. #mythbeasts
@MYTHistories RT @leapetra: Dragons are tied into world creation and destruction. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra Which goes some way to explain their interpretation in Celtic myth as the cause of earthquakes. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 who need tectonic plates,a giant beast makes a much sense :P #mythbeasts
@leapetra tap tap tap. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra You want that I should invoke the term "cryptozoology" this soon, or is that tempting fate? #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords8* :D #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 there are a lot of interesting creatures in Cryptozoology, but most stay away from dragons. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra I think they came back with 2 new species, but nothing that could be considered unusual in the extreme. #mythbeasts
@leapetra I'm going to wrap up this chat. I know there were some glitches, #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra The only one that really strikes any sort of lasting impression is the South American investigation in the 1870s. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 Thats still interesting. #mythbeasts
@cdreimer Dragons are fairly limited creatures outside of a pure fantasy world. Most stories use dragons in a metaphorical sense. #mythbeasts
@cdreimer I would love to do a short story based on the Chinese dragon. Perhaps a parade Chinese dragon that turns into the real thing. #mythbeasts
@cdreimer Yeah, they would. RT @leapetra: @cdreimer I think the Simpsons did something like that, but they called animal control #mythbeasts
@leapetra @cdreimer I think the Simpsons did something like that, but they called animal control #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra Thank you for hosting #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris We will do dragons again. #mythbeasts
@leapetra 5 minutes until chat. Did anyone see any dragons lately? #mythbeasts
@leapetra hic sunt dracones = here be dragons. Come talk about dragons #mythbeasts
@leapetra Tonight dragons: good vs evil #mythbeasts
@kishazworld @leapetra Where are the dragons? I have to see one! #mythbeasts
@leapetra what makes them so fearful and revered? #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 I believe dragons from the west have been far more popular than eastern dragons. It's a shame since they're very interesting. #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 Hello, btw! ;) #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 HI and welcome #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 it might be a cultural thing. Eastern dragons were introduced late to the west. #mythbeasts
@leapetra Two movies come to mind: Dragonheart and Dragon Slayer. Are both true to the dragon myths? #mythbeasts
@Isis_Ireland RT @leapetra: Two movies come to mind: Dragonheart and Dragon Slayer. Are both true to the dragon myths? #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra I think the legend of Saint George play a huge part if why dragons are popularly fearsome through history #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 People seem to respond to the evil fire breathing dragon more than the wise ancient creature. In the east they are revered. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris dragons were the ultimate beast to destroy #mythbeasts
@Pyris Dragon Slayer is true to the western concept of dragons as an evil monster. Dragonheart, not so much. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris I felt as if Dragonheart was trying to bring in the eastern ideas. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris Dragon Slayer also had the pagan ways disappearing. via the missionary #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra only because the dragon was said to be kin to the serpent of Eden and thus a tool of the devil/ satan #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris All reptiles got thrown in with the serpent of eden. #mythbeasts
@Pyris I would have to agree that Dragonheart tried just an *ickle* bit too hard. Reign of Fire however was a kick in the pants =) #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris Pure monsters. You can see how they could topple civilization #mythbeasts
@leapetra Responses might be slow tonight, noticed Twitter and Tweetchat are keeping up, but Twitscoop isn't #mythbeasts
@leapetra anyone else having issues too? #mythbeasts
@Pyris On the other hand you have dragons like those in the film Flight of Dragons which are cross cultural and symbolic #mythbeasts
@Pyris Hootsuite is keeping up just fine #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris i love that movie, we have the book too. The explanation of how they flew makes perfect sense. #mythbeasts
@leapetra When I was looking over the dragon lore, what surprised me, it some people still claim to see them #mythbeasts
@leapetra You would think a giant reptile would have been easy to spot earlier. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 I forget the precise name, but a "leaping" wyrm (dragon) was reported as little as twenty years ago in Greenland (?) #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra I know of at least one pagan magic system that explains them as being trans-dimensional #mythbeasts
@GdL16 @leapetra I know that one "sighting" in Tibet turned out to be a cloud. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 I heard of the Tibet one, but not the one in Greenland. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra It might have been Iceland (I'm not sure the reports were accurate in the first place), but I remember the leaping. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris Sort of how Pratchett explains how they were not found on Discworld anymore. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 From memory, it had two small forelegs, and could get six to eight feet in one bound. Skeletons have been reported. #mythbeasts
@tribal_gothic The Chinese kept a record of Celestial Dragon Paths (Strange lights that moved in the sky) #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic meteors and the like? #mythbeasts
@Olivia_Rabbit RT @tribal_gothic: The Chinese kept a record of Celestial Dragon Paths (Strange lights that moved in the sky) #mythbeasts
@tribal_gothic @leapetra Well, John Keel hinted at "UFO's" but hard to tell after all these years... #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra to a point but Pratchett's dragons relied more on human belief/ manifestation of will #mythbeasts
@ufoWatcherbot RT @tribal_gothic @leapetra Well, John Keel hinted at "UFO's" but hard to tell after all these years... #mythbeasts
@leapetra Can anyone think of any place on this planet where dragons have not been "found"? #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra Australia? #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris I did like how he had the small dragon "rewire" his system, so he could take off like a jet. Very new twist. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra Antarctica. :P #mythbeasts
@tribal_gothic @leapetra American Indians has a few versions of ThunderBird legends the large Red ones were similar to Dragons #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @Pyris They have a real dragon, the Komodo. #mythbeasts
@Pyris I've never heard of dragons represented in Aboriginal art at all #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @Pyris @leapetra Aboriginal beliefs have things which could be interpreted as dragons in their oral tradition. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 @Pyris I found one called the Rainbow Serpent. http://www.polenth.com/myth/oceania/rainbow.html #mythbeasts
@Pyris oh, my bad! Thank you @BigWords88 I have learned summat new today =) #mythbeasts
@leapetra Dragons are tied into world creation and destruction. #mythbeasts
@leapetra Midgard serpent for example. Kills Thor in Ragnarök. #mythbeasts
@MYTHistories RT @leapetra: Dragons are tied into world creation and destruction. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra Which goes some way to explain their interpretation in Celtic myth as the cause of earthquakes. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 who need tectonic plates,a giant beast makes a much sense :P #mythbeasts
@leapetra tap tap tap. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra You want that I should invoke the term "cryptozoology" this soon, or is that tempting fate? #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords8* :D #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 there are a lot of interesting creatures in Cryptozoology, but most stay away from dragons. #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra I think they came back with 2 new species, but nothing that could be considered unusual in the extreme. #mythbeasts
@leapetra I'm going to wrap up this chat. I know there were some glitches, #mythbeasts
@BigWords88 @leapetra The only one that really strikes any sort of lasting impression is the South American investigation in the 1870s. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BigWords88 Thats still interesting. #mythbeasts
@cdreimer Dragons are fairly limited creatures outside of a pure fantasy world. Most stories use dragons in a metaphorical sense. #mythbeasts
@cdreimer I would love to do a short story based on the Chinese dragon. Perhaps a parade Chinese dragon that turns into the real thing. #mythbeasts
@cdreimer Yeah, they would. RT @leapetra: @cdreimer I think the Simpsons did something like that, but they called animal control #mythbeasts
@leapetra @cdreimer I think the Simpsons did something like that, but they called animal control #mythbeasts
@Pyris @leapetra Thank you for hosting #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Pyris We will do dragons again. #mythbeasts
Monday, March 21, 2011
transcript 03/15/2011
@leapetra: Almost time for #mythbeasts chat. Anyone that wants to talk about Celtic monsters is welcome
@leapetra Alright, time to talk about banshees and pucas. Remember to include #mythbeasts so we all can see your tweets #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 All of these are faeries, correct? #Mythbeasts
@leapetra For Saint Patrick's Day, we can't drink green beer on twitter, so lets talk about some of the beasties from Ireland #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 Most of them. Ireland is full of faeries it would seem #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff lol if ya have any questions im from ireland and i know all about irish myths!#mythbeasts
@leapetra @CiaraCliff Yay! I know I only touch the surface. there is so much to Irish folklore #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 I am familiar with the Leprechaun and Banshee don't know that much about the Puca? #mythbeasts
@leapetra Puca, or Pooka is a shapeshifter. The movie Harvey had one. But that was a nice one #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @BookLover73 a puca is the irish for ghost #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @leapetra black dogs, horses or sexy men, right? Or what else can they change into? #mythbeasts
@theapatra @leapetra i'd never heard of puca either. good one to know #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra puca is irsh for ghost and banshees are fairies that predict the deaths of old irish family member!#mythbeasts
@leapetra @Tessasblurb According to the movie and play a 6 ft tall rabbit too. :D #mythbeasts
@leapetra Leprechauns are popular right now. they are all over in the states with St. Patrick's day. #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff banshees are fairies,in ireland to hear a banshee cry is a sign that someone has died #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @CiaraCliff yeah banshees follow families with a mac or an o I'd put the fada in but I'm on my phone #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @The_Antithesis @ObsidianMiss Thanks for the info! #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @ObsidianMiss yeah and they've been known to sing to the deceased persons famiy #mythbeasts
@leapetra banshees seem to be one of those folklore creatures that will stay with us. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @ObsidianMiss did they always appear to certain families? #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @CiaraCliff yup she also knocks on windows 3times to warn of death and rattle doors. Its said she originates near the river suir #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 I am aware the Celts are not only from Ireland. Do Celts from other parts have the same myths? #Mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 I know banshees also appear in parts of Scotland as well #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @leapetra oh yea the rabbit thing. I never liked harvey much... I'd rather have a sexy phouka, thank you very much #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra not always usually ones of great importance but she stalks the macs and the o she's guaranteed for them. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Tessasblurb Sexy pucas should be the next thing in paranormal romance #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @leapetra uhm *snaps mind back to present* yea definately #mythbeasts
@leapetra Death omens seem big. Black dogs and Black cats as well. The Cat Sith for one #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff one thing that ive always found fascinating with irish folklore is the story of changelings #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @CiaraCliff have you read the Flower Wars by Tad Williams? #mythbeasts Great changeling story, that one.
@leapetra @CiaraCliff Changeling weren't only in Ireland. But most of the myths come from there #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra its mostly large black dogs that predict death and i heard a story once of a bear as well #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @CiaraCliff eastern european folklore has owls on roofs at night hooting as a sign of death to come #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @CiaraCliff ok sorry that sentence was a little odd #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss The story I was always told about the black dog was that it was the devil #mythbeasts
@leapetra @ObsidianMiss The first time I heard of the black dog was with Sherlock Holmes. #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra ah yes :) I was told all the stories passed down through my family #mythbeasts
@leapetra Celtic folklore has a lot of water beasts too. Kelpies, Selkies, Merrows #mythbeasts
@leapetra @ObsidianMiss Those must have been wonderful stories. more families should do that #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra my nanny always use to tell me stories of changelings,my apologies i assumed the were irish! :) #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @Tessasblurb i dont really know much about eastern european folklore but it sounds really interesting!#mythbeasts
@leapetra @CiaraCliff I found a lot of stories from Scandinavia that also had changelings. But I knew about them from Ireland 1st #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra most would put the hair standing on your head and I've had a few weird experiences myself #mythbeasts
@leapetra there are similarities between the banshee and mermaids, I always wondered why #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra the hair and the comb plus the banshee often appeared at the river. #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @leapetra Do the Selkies and Kelpies sing to sailors? Such as in Greek myth? #Mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 I don't think the kelpies would, I could be wrong, they wanted to take you for a ride. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 The selkies were always drawn to handsome humans. Very tragic love stories surround them. #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra @BookLover73 Drags riders to the bottom of the water, drowning them and devouring them. My kind of Horse ! #mythbeasts #kelpies
@leapetra The Secret of Roan Inish is a wonderful Selkie story #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic Kelpies are mean son of bitches #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @Tribal_Gothic @leapetra Does it matter whether the rider is male or female or is it an equal opportunity killer? #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff fairy rings,paths and trees i have all of them near my house.when something vanishes from my house i blame the fairies! #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 I think they just wanted to kill anyone #mythbeasts
@leapetra @CiaraCliff Fairy rings are interesting. I saw a few growing up. I know what really causes them, but they still are magical #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @BookLover73 I think Kelpies were an equal opportunity killer. I also think they a actually Chimera (which take many forms). #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra i stay well away from them anyway! #mythbeasts
@leapetra @CiaraCliff Maybe they (faeries) only want us to think its a decaying stump. and the mushroom grow around it. :D #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 This #mythbeasts chat is so full of info it makes me want to write some very cool stories. :)
@CiaraCliff @leapetra hahahaha yeah!xD #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 I know, my notebook is getting really full :D #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @BookLover73 me too im getting great ideas! :) #mythbeasts
@leapetra Whet your appetite for next week. DRAGONS #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra @BookLover73 I think that many of these Phantoms or, Cryptids are actually Multi-Dimensional Manifestations... #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra cool cant wait!! :D #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @leapetra Don't hear so much about Eastern dragons hope we have a lively discussion about them. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic That would make sense, what else could be the fairy realm? it was alongside us, not a different place #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra @BookLover73 From old AND modern "Myth" such as Fae, Jinn, Chimera, Mothman, Giant Black Dogs/Cats, etc... #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 East, west, good, evil, I hope we cover them all #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic There are so many. And ppl still insist none of them exist. hmmm makes you wonder. #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @Tribal_Gothic Now, the Jinn are very interesting. #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra From an analytical view - there are telltale traces: A Rotten Smell, Glowing Red Eyes, Electromagnetic Disturbance etc #mythbeasts
@leapetra Time to wrap this up. If you want to cover anything in later chats. DM or leave a comment on my blog http://www.mariminiatt.com #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @BookLover73 Yess Indeed ;) #mythbeasts #Jinn
@BookLover73 Thanks for a great chat. I enjoyed it. :) #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic @BookLover73 I do not have the Jinn scheduled yet. I will see what I can do #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra @BookLover73 Thanks for the chat ;) #mythbeasts
@leapetra Alright, time to talk about banshees and pucas. Remember to include #mythbeasts so we all can see your tweets #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 All of these are faeries, correct? #Mythbeasts
@leapetra For Saint Patrick's Day, we can't drink green beer on twitter, so lets talk about some of the beasties from Ireland #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 Most of them. Ireland is full of faeries it would seem #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff lol if ya have any questions im from ireland and i know all about irish myths!#mythbeasts
@leapetra @CiaraCliff Yay! I know I only touch the surface. there is so much to Irish folklore #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 I am familiar with the Leprechaun and Banshee don't know that much about the Puca? #mythbeasts
@leapetra Puca, or Pooka is a shapeshifter. The movie Harvey had one. But that was a nice one #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @BookLover73 a puca is the irish for ghost #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @leapetra black dogs, horses or sexy men, right? Or what else can they change into? #mythbeasts
@theapatra @leapetra i'd never heard of puca either. good one to know #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra puca is irsh for ghost and banshees are fairies that predict the deaths of old irish family member!#mythbeasts
@leapetra @Tessasblurb According to the movie and play a 6 ft tall rabbit too. :D #mythbeasts
@leapetra Leprechauns are popular right now. they are all over in the states with St. Patrick's day. #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff banshees are fairies,in ireland to hear a banshee cry is a sign that someone has died #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @CiaraCliff yeah banshees follow families with a mac or an o I'd put the fada in but I'm on my phone #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @The_Antithesis @ObsidianMiss Thanks for the info! #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @ObsidianMiss yeah and they've been known to sing to the deceased persons famiy #mythbeasts
@leapetra banshees seem to be one of those folklore creatures that will stay with us. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @ObsidianMiss did they always appear to certain families? #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @CiaraCliff yup she also knocks on windows 3times to warn of death and rattle doors. Its said she originates near the river suir #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 I am aware the Celts are not only from Ireland. Do Celts from other parts have the same myths? #Mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 I know banshees also appear in parts of Scotland as well #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @leapetra oh yea the rabbit thing. I never liked harvey much... I'd rather have a sexy phouka, thank you very much #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra not always usually ones of great importance but she stalks the macs and the o she's guaranteed for them. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @Tessasblurb Sexy pucas should be the next thing in paranormal romance #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @leapetra uhm *snaps mind back to present* yea definately #mythbeasts
@leapetra Death omens seem big. Black dogs and Black cats as well. The Cat Sith for one #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff one thing that ive always found fascinating with irish folklore is the story of changelings #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @CiaraCliff have you read the Flower Wars by Tad Williams? #mythbeasts Great changeling story, that one.
@leapetra @CiaraCliff Changeling weren't only in Ireland. But most of the myths come from there #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra its mostly large black dogs that predict death and i heard a story once of a bear as well #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @CiaraCliff eastern european folklore has owls on roofs at night hooting as a sign of death to come #mythbeasts
@Tessasblurb @CiaraCliff ok sorry that sentence was a little odd #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss The story I was always told about the black dog was that it was the devil #mythbeasts
@leapetra @ObsidianMiss The first time I heard of the black dog was with Sherlock Holmes. #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra ah yes :) I was told all the stories passed down through my family #mythbeasts
@leapetra Celtic folklore has a lot of water beasts too. Kelpies, Selkies, Merrows #mythbeasts
@leapetra @ObsidianMiss Those must have been wonderful stories. more families should do that #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra my nanny always use to tell me stories of changelings,my apologies i assumed the were irish! :) #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @Tessasblurb i dont really know much about eastern european folklore but it sounds really interesting!#mythbeasts
@leapetra @CiaraCliff I found a lot of stories from Scandinavia that also had changelings. But I knew about them from Ireland 1st #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra most would put the hair standing on your head and I've had a few weird experiences myself #mythbeasts
@leapetra there are similarities between the banshee and mermaids, I always wondered why #mythbeasts
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra the hair and the comb plus the banshee often appeared at the river. #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @leapetra Do the Selkies and Kelpies sing to sailors? Such as in Greek myth? #Mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 I don't think the kelpies would, I could be wrong, they wanted to take you for a ride. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 The selkies were always drawn to handsome humans. Very tragic love stories surround them. #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra @BookLover73 Drags riders to the bottom of the water, drowning them and devouring them. My kind of Horse ! #mythbeasts #kelpies
@leapetra The Secret of Roan Inish is a wonderful Selkie story #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic Kelpies are mean son of bitches #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @Tribal_Gothic @leapetra Does it matter whether the rider is male or female or is it an equal opportunity killer? #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff fairy rings,paths and trees i have all of them near my house.when something vanishes from my house i blame the fairies! #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 I think they just wanted to kill anyone #mythbeasts
@leapetra @CiaraCliff Fairy rings are interesting. I saw a few growing up. I know what really causes them, but they still are magical #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @BookLover73 I think Kelpies were an equal opportunity killer. I also think they a actually Chimera (which take many forms). #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra i stay well away from them anyway! #mythbeasts
@leapetra @CiaraCliff Maybe they (faeries) only want us to think its a decaying stump. and the mushroom grow around it. :D #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 This #mythbeasts chat is so full of info it makes me want to write some very cool stories. :)
@CiaraCliff @leapetra hahahaha yeah!xD #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 I know, my notebook is getting really full :D #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @BookLover73 me too im getting great ideas! :) #mythbeasts
@leapetra Whet your appetite for next week. DRAGONS #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra @BookLover73 I think that many of these Phantoms or, Cryptids are actually Multi-Dimensional Manifestations... #mythbeasts
@CiaraCliff @leapetra cool cant wait!! :D #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @leapetra Don't hear so much about Eastern dragons hope we have a lively discussion about them. #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic That would make sense, what else could be the fairy realm? it was alongside us, not a different place #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra @BookLover73 From old AND modern "Myth" such as Fae, Jinn, Chimera, Mothman, Giant Black Dogs/Cats, etc... #mythbeasts
@leapetra @BookLover73 East, west, good, evil, I hope we cover them all #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic There are so many. And ppl still insist none of them exist. hmmm makes you wonder. #mythbeasts
@BookLover73 @Tribal_Gothic Now, the Jinn are very interesting. #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra From an analytical view - there are telltale traces: A Rotten Smell, Glowing Red Eyes, Electromagnetic Disturbance etc #mythbeasts
@leapetra Time to wrap this up. If you want to cover anything in later chats. DM or leave a comment on my blog http://www.mariminiatt.com #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @BookLover73 Yess Indeed ;) #mythbeasts #Jinn
@BookLover73 Thanks for a great chat. I enjoyed it. :) #mythbeasts
@leapetra @tribal_gothic @BookLover73 I do not have the Jinn scheduled yet. I will see what I can do #mythbeasts
@Tribal_Gothic @leapetra @BookLover73 Thanks for the chat ;) #mythbeasts
Sunday, March 20, 2011
#mythbeasts Dragons
© Copyright Elliott Simpson and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons License
If there is one mythical beast that everyone knows, it is the dragon. They are world wide. From the West we have the evil monsters. From the East; benevolent forces of nature. And in between; great serpents, giant wyrms, and other powerful reptiles.
© Copyright Albert Bridge and licensed for reuse under this Creative Commons License
They are symbols of power. Some rulers claimed to be descended from them. They were claimed to be the embodiment of Satan. Some helped create the world, others will destroy it. And even in these "more enlightened" times, people still say they see them.
LINKS
Wikipedia: Dragons
Nature: The Dragon Chronicles (looking at real animals that may have inspired the dragon myth)
Eastern Dragons
Wikipedia: Midgard Serpent
You Tube search of "dragon sightings"
So if you want to join in. Use http://tweetchat.com/room/mythbeasts or tweetdeck for ease of use, and find us at #mythbeasts (don't forget the last s) Make sure you follow me too @leapetra
Wednesday, March 16, 2011
#mythbeasts Irish Beasties
Originally published on 03/13/2011 at mariminiatt.com
This Tuesday, 03/15/2011 at 6:30 pm Eastern Standard Time, on twitter, we will be discussing Irish folklore monsters.
Some of the ones we may discuss:
Leprechaun:
This jolly shoemaker didn't always wear green or sell breakfast cereals.
Puca:
A shapeshifter that started horrible, but later became an imaginary friend to Jimmy Stewart in Harvey.
Kelpie:
The horse in the water.
Selkies:
Seals that can transform into humans for love, mainly.
The Cat Sìth:
The large black cat that haunts the countryside.
Merrow:
Irish mermaids.
Sluagh:
Sprits of the restless dead.
To follow on Twitter; search for #mythbeasts. It is better to use another site like Tweetchat.
This Tuesday, 03/15/2011 at 6:30 pm Eastern Standard Time, on twitter, we will be discussing Irish folklore monsters.
Some of the ones we may discuss:
Banshee:
The female spirt that foretells death with her mournful screaming or singing.Leprechaun:
This jolly shoemaker didn't always wear green or sell breakfast cereals.
Puca:
A shapeshifter that started horrible, but later became an imaginary friend to Jimmy Stewart in Harvey.
Kelpie:
The horse in the water.
Selkies:
Seals that can transform into humans for love, mainly.
The Cat Sìth:
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| My cat impersonating a Cat Sith |
The large black cat that haunts the countryside.
Merrow:
Irish mermaids.
Sluagh:
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| From Legacy of Kain. The original ones from myths looked like crows. |
Sprits of the restless dead.
To follow on Twitter; search for #mythbeasts. It is better to use another site like Tweetchat.
#mythbeasts transcript 03/08/2011
Originally published on 03/13/2011 at mariminiatt.com
@leapetra It's 6:30 EST. Time for the 1st official chat. #mythbeasts -6:30 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra For International Women's day, I thought it would interesting to talk about the female monsters that are in folklore and myths. #mythbeasts -6:31 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 RT @leapetra: It's 6:30 EST. Time for the 1st official chat. #mythbeasts -6:31 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Medusa would be a good one to start with. We all should be familiar with her #mythbeasts -6:32 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 Medusa is my favorite. I think every woman can relate to her. Bad hair day and all. ;) #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra ok so this is the first chat I've actively tried to follow is there anything special I should do? #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 The worse hair day #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra i love the notion of medusa actually #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris make sure you use the hashtag. or your comments might get lost. #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 Seriously, she was the one violated and she was the one punished! #mythbeasts -6:35 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @theapatra what do you love about her? #mythbeasts -6:35 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra not sure. i think that her power was in her hair...kinda like samson #mythbeasts -6:36 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 A lot of the monsters I mentioned, follow the same path as Medusa. Their forms are punishment #mythbeasts -6:36 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @theapatra Interesting point. #mythbeasts -6:37 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra i just always liked the idea of snakes coming from her head. never knew why. i'm not scared of snakes, so maybe that's #mythbeasts -6:38 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra My first introduction to her was Clash of the Titans (original) I remember being scared and sad she died #mythbeasts -6:40 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris I have always strongly identified with Medusa, as a scorned and punished woman that retains so much power she is feared. #mythbeasts -6:40 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra In Japan there is the Harionago a woman with barbs in her hair. She will attack young men and rip them apart. #mythbeasts -6:41 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra wow. love that one #mythbeasts -6:42 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra I couldn't find her background story. But another one with horrible hair. #mythbeasts -6:42 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @theapatra She was a priestess to Athena, I think. Posideon violated her. That's when she was turned as punishment. #Mythbeasts -6:42 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra but the Harionago won't attack without provocation #mythbeasts -6:43 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Nods @leapetra, same here although I was sad and sympathetic rather than scared. #mythbeasts -6:43 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @BookLover73 oh. i had no idea. thanks for the info #Mythbeasts -6:43 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @theapatra She and her sisters, actually. They were all turned into Gorgons. #mythbeasts -6:43 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @ObsidianMiss But she does try to trick men. she works as a warning to young men? #mythbeasts -6:44 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Saw you mention the Harionago a couple days ago and wondered if that myth inspired the porcupine woman from Nightbreed #mythbeasts -6:44 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris I wonder, or could that have been a Native American myth? i will have to look into it #mythbeasts -6:46 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 Not up on the Harionago. What is she about? #mythbeasts -6:46 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 Ooops, didn't see previous tweet. :) #mythbeasts -6:47 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra japan has another woman, disfigured, The Slit-Mouth woman. unlike the rest, she has caused panics up until 1970's #mythbeasts -6:49 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra The Slit-Mouth woman covers her mouth, asks if she is pretty, if you say "yes" she will reveal her ripped face #mythbeasts -6:50 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Taking Medusa and the Harionago both, the focus seems to be on hair with is often seen as a sign of power, virility and beauty #mythbeasts -6:50 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra wow. way cool #mythbeasts -6:51 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris a response in my blog said it was that hair was the crowing jewel of a woman #mythbeasts -6:51 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt So, who else thinks Hollywood is out of ideas when it comes to mythical beasts, male of female. #mythbeasts -6:53 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra i'm sorry. i can't get past the slit mouth woman. that's just ... mind blowing. where did that one come from? #mythbeasts -6:53 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra All of them still retain their beauty. although in twisted forms. Why not make them totally monsterous #mythbeasts -6:53 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra great point. i know some vry beautiful women who are just evil #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt they haven't touched all the cultures yet. #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 How about the Banshee? #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra or totally breathtaking and evil? #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @BookLover73 another of my favs! #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@tribal_gothic @BookLover73 I dated a Banshee once - or, at least she screamed like one ;) #mythbeasts -6:55 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @theapatra original story, was that she was disfigured by her samuri husband. #mythbeasts -6:55 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 the banshee another beautiful, but monstrous woman. yet she has a purpose too. #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 I believe she had a comb of gold or silver continually combing her hair. #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris ach now slit-mouth woman is clearly derogatory in a cautionary way like a lot of folklore/urban myth #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Don't be too vain little girl or this will happen to you, you will become such a thing #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@TattooedWriter @leapetra because the contrast between their beauty and monstrous side is all that more compelling and horrifying #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra i c. i imagine it's a metaphor for what comes out of a woman's mouth...seen and not heard sort of thing #mythbeasts -6:57 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt Didn't some one trick the husband into thinking his wife screwed around? #mythbeasts -6:57 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @Pyris yes #mythbeasts -6:57 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @BookLover73 the comb is a crossover between mermaids and banshees #mythbeasts -6:58 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt That is one of the stories, so she came back and demanded him to tell her she was beautful #mythbeasts -6:58 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt What was the motive for doing this? #mythbeasts -6:58 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @theapatra in the last panic, if you told her you were busy, she would apologize and move on. #mythbeasts -6:59 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @ObsidianMiss Hmm, I can see that. All these women either have their power in their hair or their voice. #mythbeasts -6:59 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt revenge or punishment, seems to be the theme #mythbeasts -7:00 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt That one Russian woman tickles you to death. #mythbeasts -7:00 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt you beat me to it!!! Rusalka! #mythbeasts -7:01 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris There are all sorts of riffs off the Banshee. @ObsidianMiss dun forget Sirens #mythbeasts -7:01 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @BookLover73 true a banshee is technically a fairy woman who fortells your death. I don't think she's a monster though #mythbeasts -7:01 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Rusalkas live in the water and if they like a young man, they will (cough) "tickle him to death" #mythbeasts -7:02 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra of all the ways these female monsters kill, tickling seems the least leathal #mythbeasts -7:03 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @Pyris I haven't I just don't put them in the same category banshees warn of death sirens lure you to your death #mythbeasts -7:04 PM Mar 8th, 201
@BookLover73 @ObsidianMiss I think the Fae can be just as monstorous as any mythical creature out there. #mythbeasts -7:04 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt "Tickle" as a stand in for"f***"...interesting. #mythbeasts -7:04 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra don't forget the succubus #mythbeasts. I'm writing about one now -7:05 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra there is a sexual overtone with all of the monsters #mythbeasts -7:05 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris So we have revenge & punishment but what about justice oris there any way to 'redeem' these monsters? #mythbeasts -7:05 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @BookLover73 very true but I think in terms of the other monsters we've seen where they kill you she seems friendly :) #mythbeasts -7:06 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt Many of them have passed on. So, I'm not sure. #mythbeasts -7:06 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris It depends on the type of banshee, there are at least two common origins for them drowning as mentioned or death in birthing #mythbeasts -7:06 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris I can't think of any of them that could be redeemed, their monstrous form is forever. #mythbeasts -7:07 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt They appear as wraths, ghosts, and the like. #mythbeasts -7:07 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Although some Rusalka will stop pestering men, if it is found they were killed, and the killer brought to justice, #mythbeasts -7:07 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra but nothing said if that will really put the Rusalka to rest. #mythbeasts -7:09 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra A final one, a real horrible one. is in their form because of the type of death. The Pontianak #mythbeasts -7:10 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Pontianak have died in childbirth. They come back as a vampire like being that eats intestines #mythbeasts -7:11 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra The Pontianak did not do anything wrong, but are punished. #mythbeasts -7:13 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Ew, what is the ethnic origin of the Pontianak? #mythbeasts -7:15 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris Indonesia #mythbeasts -7:16 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Wow the Pontianak brought everything to a stand still #mythbeasts -7:19 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra Do their families have to do anything special to allow them to rest? #Mythbeasts -7:19 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris *scratches head* I would expect that the punishment of a Pontianak has to do with either a lack of fortitude or perhaps gluttony #mythbeasts -7:20 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 nothing is said in anything I read, but being a vampire, there are probably precautions. #mythbeasts -7:21 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris @booklover73 oh, that's a good point! maybe the woman did not do anything wrong but their family did? #mythbeasts -7:21 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris Very good point #mythbeasts -7:22 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @Pyris Curses often times can effect a whole family even a whole village. #mythbeasts -7:23 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt The Pontianak are associated with the aroma of the Plumeria. A Colorful flower with a milky poisonous sap. #mythbeasts -7:24 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt Sap that irritates the eyes and skin. #mythbeasts -7:26 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra So the Pontianak might be a caution against abandoning a woman during childbirth, like a scorned lover?? #mythbeasts -7:26 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Times almost up. I hope the first chat went ok for everyone #mythbeasts -7:28 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Next week, for St. Patricks Day. we will talk about Irish monsters. #mythbeasts -7:29 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra I was already thinking of that and another legend, La Llorona http://ow.ly/4atK4 #mythbeasts -7:29 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra I really enjoyed it. I learned a lot. :) #mythbeasts -7:30 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris The weeping woman, I want to spend a day on her later. #mythbeasts -7:30 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 Great it was a lot of fun to host too #mythbeasts -7:30 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Yay, Celtic monsters \o/ #mythbeasts -7:31 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris And I am sure before next week I will have more than banshees and leprechauns to talk about. #mythbeasts -7:32 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra It's 6:30 EST. Time for the 1st official chat. #mythbeasts -6:30 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra For International Women's day, I thought it would interesting to talk about the female monsters that are in folklore and myths. #mythbeasts -6:31 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 RT @leapetra: It's 6:30 EST. Time for the 1st official chat. #mythbeasts -6:31 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Medusa would be a good one to start with. We all should be familiar with her #mythbeasts -6:32 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 Medusa is my favorite. I think every woman can relate to her. Bad hair day and all. ;) #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra ok so this is the first chat I've actively tried to follow is there anything special I should do? #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 The worse hair day #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra i love the notion of medusa actually #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris make sure you use the hashtag. or your comments might get lost. #mythbeasts -6:34 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 Seriously, she was the one violated and she was the one punished! #mythbeasts -6:35 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @theapatra what do you love about her? #mythbeasts -6:35 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra not sure. i think that her power was in her hair...kinda like samson #mythbeasts -6:36 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 A lot of the monsters I mentioned, follow the same path as Medusa. Their forms are punishment #mythbeasts -6:36 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @theapatra Interesting point. #mythbeasts -6:37 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra i just always liked the idea of snakes coming from her head. never knew why. i'm not scared of snakes, so maybe that's #mythbeasts -6:38 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra My first introduction to her was Clash of the Titans (original) I remember being scared and sad she died #mythbeasts -6:40 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris I have always strongly identified with Medusa, as a scorned and punished woman that retains so much power she is feared. #mythbeasts -6:40 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra In Japan there is the Harionago a woman with barbs in her hair. She will attack young men and rip them apart. #mythbeasts -6:41 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra wow. love that one #mythbeasts -6:42 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra I couldn't find her background story. But another one with horrible hair. #mythbeasts -6:42 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @theapatra She was a priestess to Athena, I think. Posideon violated her. That's when she was turned as punishment. #Mythbeasts -6:42 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @leapetra but the Harionago won't attack without provocation #mythbeasts -6:43 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Nods @leapetra, same here although I was sad and sympathetic rather than scared. #mythbeasts -6:43 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @BookLover73 oh. i had no idea. thanks for the info #Mythbeasts -6:43 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @theapatra She and her sisters, actually. They were all turned into Gorgons. #mythbeasts -6:43 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @ObsidianMiss But she does try to trick men. she works as a warning to young men? #mythbeasts -6:44 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Saw you mention the Harionago a couple days ago and wondered if that myth inspired the porcupine woman from Nightbreed #mythbeasts -6:44 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris I wonder, or could that have been a Native American myth? i will have to look into it #mythbeasts -6:46 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 Not up on the Harionago. What is she about? #mythbeasts -6:46 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 Ooops, didn't see previous tweet. :) #mythbeasts -6:47 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra japan has another woman, disfigured, The Slit-Mouth woman. unlike the rest, she has caused panics up until 1970's #mythbeasts -6:49 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra The Slit-Mouth woman covers her mouth, asks if she is pretty, if you say "yes" she will reveal her ripped face #mythbeasts -6:50 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Taking Medusa and the Harionago both, the focus seems to be on hair with is often seen as a sign of power, virility and beauty #mythbeasts -6:50 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra wow. way cool #mythbeasts -6:51 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris a response in my blog said it was that hair was the crowing jewel of a woman #mythbeasts -6:51 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt So, who else thinks Hollywood is out of ideas when it comes to mythical beasts, male of female. #mythbeasts -6:53 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra i'm sorry. i can't get past the slit mouth woman. that's just ... mind blowing. where did that one come from? #mythbeasts -6:53 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra All of them still retain their beauty. although in twisted forms. Why not make them totally monsterous #mythbeasts -6:53 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra great point. i know some vry beautiful women who are just evil #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt they haven't touched all the cultures yet. #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 How about the Banshee? #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra or totally breathtaking and evil? #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @BookLover73 another of my favs! #mythbeasts -6:54 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@tribal_gothic @BookLover73 I dated a Banshee once - or, at least she screamed like one ;) #mythbeasts -6:55 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @theapatra original story, was that she was disfigured by her samuri husband. #mythbeasts -6:55 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 the banshee another beautiful, but monstrous woman. yet she has a purpose too. #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 I believe she had a comb of gold or silver continually combing her hair. #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris ach now slit-mouth woman is clearly derogatory in a cautionary way like a lot of folklore/urban myth #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Don't be too vain little girl or this will happen to you, you will become such a thing #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@TattooedWriter @leapetra because the contrast between their beauty and monstrous side is all that more compelling and horrifying #mythbeasts -6:56 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @leapetra i c. i imagine it's a metaphor for what comes out of a woman's mouth...seen and not heard sort of thing #mythbeasts -6:57 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt Didn't some one trick the husband into thinking his wife screwed around? #mythbeasts -6:57 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra @Pyris yes #mythbeasts -6:57 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @BookLover73 the comb is a crossover between mermaids and banshees #mythbeasts -6:58 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt That is one of the stories, so she came back and demanded him to tell her she was beautful #mythbeasts -6:58 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt What was the motive for doing this? #mythbeasts -6:58 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @theapatra in the last panic, if you told her you were busy, she would apologize and move on. #mythbeasts -6:59 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @ObsidianMiss Hmm, I can see that. All these women either have their power in their hair or their voice. #mythbeasts -6:59 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt revenge or punishment, seems to be the theme #mythbeasts -7:00 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt That one Russian woman tickles you to death. #mythbeasts -7:00 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Miniatt you beat me to it!!! Rusalka! #mythbeasts -7:01 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris There are all sorts of riffs off the Banshee. @ObsidianMiss dun forget Sirens #mythbeasts -7:01 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @BookLover73 true a banshee is technically a fairy woman who fortells your death. I don't think she's a monster though #mythbeasts -7:01 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Rusalkas live in the water and if they like a young man, they will (cough) "tickle him to death" #mythbeasts -7:02 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra of all the ways these female monsters kill, tickling seems the least leathal #mythbeasts -7:03 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @Pyris I haven't I just don't put them in the same category banshees warn of death sirens lure you to your death #mythbeasts -7:04 PM Mar 8th, 201
@BookLover73 @ObsidianMiss I think the Fae can be just as monstorous as any mythical creature out there. #mythbeasts -7:04 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt "Tickle" as a stand in for"f***"...interesting. #mythbeasts -7:04 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@theapatra don't forget the succubus #mythbeasts. I'm writing about one now -7:05 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra there is a sexual overtone with all of the monsters #mythbeasts -7:05 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris So we have revenge & punishment but what about justice oris there any way to 'redeem' these monsters? #mythbeasts -7:05 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@ObsidianMiss @BookLover73 very true but I think in terms of the other monsters we've seen where they kill you she seems friendly :) #mythbeasts -7:06 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt Many of them have passed on. So, I'm not sure. #mythbeasts -7:06 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris It depends on the type of banshee, there are at least two common origins for them drowning as mentioned or death in birthing #mythbeasts -7:06 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris I can't think of any of them that could be redeemed, their monstrous form is forever. #mythbeasts -7:07 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt They appear as wraths, ghosts, and the like. #mythbeasts -7:07 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Although some Rusalka will stop pestering men, if it is found they were killed, and the killer brought to justice, #mythbeasts -7:07 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra but nothing said if that will really put the Rusalka to rest. #mythbeasts -7:09 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra A final one, a real horrible one. is in their form because of the type of death. The Pontianak #mythbeasts -7:10 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Pontianak have died in childbirth. They come back as a vampire like being that eats intestines #mythbeasts -7:11 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra The Pontianak did not do anything wrong, but are punished. #mythbeasts -7:13 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Ew, what is the ethnic origin of the Pontianak? #mythbeasts -7:15 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris Indonesia #mythbeasts -7:16 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Wow the Pontianak brought everything to a stand still #mythbeasts -7:19 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra Do their families have to do anything special to allow them to rest? #Mythbeasts -7:19 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris *scratches head* I would expect that the punishment of a Pontianak has to do with either a lack of fortitude or perhaps gluttony #mythbeasts -7:20 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 nothing is said in anything I read, but being a vampire, there are probably precautions. #mythbeasts -7:21 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris @booklover73 oh, that's a good point! maybe the woman did not do anything wrong but their family did? #mythbeasts -7:21 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris Very good point #mythbeasts -7:22 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @Pyris Curses often times can effect a whole family even a whole village. #mythbeasts -7:23 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt The Pontianak are associated with the aroma of the Plumeria. A Colorful flower with a milky poisonous sap. #mythbeasts -7:24 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Miniatt Sap that irritates the eyes and skin. #mythbeasts -7:26 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra So the Pontianak might be a caution against abandoning a woman during childbirth, like a scorned lover?? #mythbeasts -7:26 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Times almost up. I hope the first chat went ok for everyone #mythbeasts -7:28 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra Next week, for St. Patricks Day. we will talk about Irish monsters. #mythbeasts -7:29 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris @leapetra I was already thinking of that and another legend, La Llorona http://ow.ly/4atK4 #mythbeasts -7:29 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@BookLover73 @leapetra I really enjoyed it. I learned a lot. :) #mythbeasts -7:30 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris The weeping woman, I want to spend a day on her later. #mythbeasts -7:30 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @BookLover73 Great it was a lot of fun to host too #mythbeasts -7:30 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@Pyris Yay, Celtic monsters \o/ #mythbeasts -7:31 PM Mar 8th, 2011
@leapetra @Pyris And I am sure before next week I will have more than banshees and leprechauns to talk about. #mythbeasts -7:32 PM Mar 8th, 2011
#mythbeasts: Medusa and Hariongo
Originally published on 3/6/2011 at mariminiatt.com
For March 8, 2011
Medusa the cursed beauty with snakes for hair.
Harionago the woman with barbs in her hair.
One is from Greece, the other from Japan.
Both had been or are beautiful and both can kill with their hair. What is it about these female monsters and ones like them, that are terrifying and tragic at the same time? And why hair? What other monsters take beautiful woman and revel the horrible side?
Other ones to consider (although not have the hair tricks): Kuchisake-onna (the "Slit-Mouth Woman"), Gorgons, Harpies, Rusalki, and Pontianak.
Join us Tuesday March 8, 2011 from 6:30 pm - 7:30 pm EST. on Twitter at #mythbeasts
For March 8, 2011
Medusa the cursed beauty with snakes for hair.
Harionago the woman with barbs in her hair.
One is from Greece, the other from Japan.
Both had been or are beautiful and both can kill with their hair. What is it about these female monsters and ones like them, that are terrifying and tragic at the same time? And why hair? What other monsters take beautiful woman and revel the horrible side?
Other ones to consider (although not have the hair tricks): Kuchisake-onna (the "Slit-Mouth Woman"), Gorgons, Harpies, Rusalki, and Pontianak.
Join us Tuesday March 8, 2011 from 6:30 pm - 7:30 pm EST. on Twitter at #mythbeasts
#mythbeasts
Originally posted on Wednesday, March 2, 2011 on mariminiatt.com
Just for the heck of it, last night I started to talk about mythic creatures on twitter. It was a lot of fun.
So I think for simplicity, Every Tuesday from 6:30 pm EST to 7:30 pm EST I will host a chat, all about one of my favorite subjects, monsters.
So coming up, as of right now, anyway:
March 08: Medusa and the Harionago
March 15: Irish Beasties (Banshee, Leprechaun)
March 22: Dragons (East vs West)
March 29: Centaurs, Satyrs, and other half humans.
April 05: Wendigo and other devourers.
April 12: Shapechangers
April 19: Phoenix and other creatures that are reborn
April 26: The deep downs (trolls, dwarves, etc)
May 03: Hispanic monsters (La Llorona, chupacabra)
May 10: The Fearsome Critters: American folklore (Jackalopes, Hodags, Agropelters)
May 17: Stone based: (Gargoyles, Golems)
May 25: Surprise! Not from folklore. (Ents, Marshwiggles, Tommyknockers)
Of course I am always open for suggestions.
So if you want to join in. Use http://tweetchat.com/room/mythbeasts or tweetdeck for ease of use, and find us at #mythbeasts (don't forget the last s) Make sure you follow me too @leapetra
Just for the heck of it, last night I started to talk about mythic creatures on twitter. It was a lot of fun.
So I think for simplicity, Every Tuesday from 6:30 pm EST to 7:30 pm EST I will host a chat, all about one of my favorite subjects, monsters.
So coming up, as of right now, anyway:
March 08: Medusa and the Harionago
March 15: Irish Beasties (Banshee, Leprechaun)
March 22: Dragons (East vs West)
March 29: Centaurs, Satyrs, and other half humans.
April 05: Wendigo and other devourers.
April 12: Shapechangers
April 19: Phoenix and other creatures that are reborn
April 26: The deep downs (trolls, dwarves, etc)
May 03: Hispanic monsters (La Llorona, chupacabra)
May 10: The Fearsome Critters: American folklore (Jackalopes, Hodags, Agropelters)
May 17: Stone based: (Gargoyles, Golems)
May 25: Surprise! Not from folklore. (Ents, Marshwiggles, Tommyknockers)
Of course I am always open for suggestions.
So if you want to join in. Use http://tweetchat.com/room/mythbeasts or tweetdeck for ease of use, and find us at #mythbeasts (don't forget the last s) Make sure you follow me too @leapetra
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